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    Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    Hi,
    I'm trying to choose between 2 cases in which to build a new DAW/Home PC. Which would you pick for this purpose and why? I appreciate your assistance.

    Thermaltake Mozart TX VE1000BNS
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133026
    http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/produc.../ve1000bns.asp

    Or

    Lian Li PC-2000 A PLUS II
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112061
    http://www.lian-li.com/product/produ...index=6&type=a

    Best regards,
    Chris. Dratz

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    The Thermaltake looks interesting, but it's so unconventional that I'd be worried that there might be compatibility issues. The Lian Li case didn't do anything for me, though I hear that they have really nice quality.

    Recently, I bought an Antec Solo. Here's what I like about it:

    1) You can mount the case fan(s) in front of the HDDs, keeping your drives cool.

    2) It comes standard with an HDD suspension system, minimizing seek noise.

    3) It came without a power supply, letting me choose my own.

    4) It includes sound dampening materials on the large panels.

    5) The air enters low in the front and exits high in the back, which is ideal.

    6) It's large enough to house a large CPU heatsink. (In my case a Thermalright 120.)

    If you want a higher-end solution, check this out...

    http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/...x=151&code=020

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    Also check out the Antec P-180
    P4 3.0, 2 gig ram, nvidia 6800gt, 3 SATA drives, EMU-1820M, UAD-1, Studiologic SL-110, Mackie Universal Controller, Behringer Truth B2031A, Cubase SX3, Kontakt2, EWQL Gold, EWQL Choirs, EWQL Collosus, NI Akoustik Piano, NI Elektrik Piano, NI B4 II, EZ Drummer, Lyrical Distortion 1+2, Scarbee Bass, Real Guitar2, Atmospheres, Absynth1, GPO

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    Both of those are pretty pricey.
    I second the idea to check out an Antec p-180.

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonFairhurst
    The Thermaltake looks interesting, but it's so unconventional that I'd be worried that there might be compatibility issues.
    Out of curiousity, what issues would you worry about? (Anything I have read about has had to do with the occasional motherbaord that breaks with the ATX specification is some way.)
    Quote Originally Posted by JonFairhurst
    Recently, I bought an Antec Solo.
    I would have to use the silicone grommets to allow my 4-hard-drive minimum and assure that they remain in place should someone try to move the PC for some reason.
    Quote Originally Posted by ksteveg
    Also check out the Antec P-180
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Karl
    I second the idea to check out an Antec p-180.
    The 6 silicone-grommeted hard drive bays and the 5 12cm fans allowed in this case for good cooling make it closer to what I'm looking for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Karl
    Both of those are pretty pricey.
    I built my present PC in an Antec performance midtower case with 3 8cm fans. I do like Antec and its products a great deal. Why the change? My hypothesis is that I can use my present PC for sequencing upstairs and use the next one I build as a networked slave downstairs in the home theater room and double it as a bluray player and media center for the big HDTV, so I would accept moderate but not excessive case noise for this use. The thing I like about the Mozart Tx case is that by using a mini-ITX based media and backup center in combination with a new ATX sampling slave I can roughly seperate the two tasks, & keep the components cool. Occasionally, I and others in my household may want to play a few games together, too.
    I have to go take care of something, but I may be back to write about this idea more.
    [Edit: I apologize for having posted a thread title that does not entirely agree with what I am now considering, but would appreciate being able to continue a debate and dialogue about it before I go off and start buying stuff. ]
    Thanks for all your help so far and best regards,
    Chris. Dratz

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmdratz
    Out of curiousity, what issues would you worry about? (Anything I have read about has had to do with the occasional motherbaord that breaks with the ATX specification is some way.)
    I'd worry about a specific motherboard and if it works well with some of the new giant heatsinks. Also, will the disk drive cables reach?

    Because it's unconventional, you never know what surprises you might encounter.

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    J. F. [Edit: and others],
    I think that a relatively large heatsink in combination with a big fan would work for my use as I would accept a moderate amount of noise. [Edit: I see in this video that there may be enough space for a big CPU cooler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu45r3JgD6w. Edit 2: However, what Thermalright 120 model do you use? I have read that the Ultra Extreme is L63.44 x W132 x H160.5 mm, and that the cooler in the above video (seems to be the Zalman CNPS9700 LED) is 90(L) X 124(W) X 142(H) mm.] I usually use longer cables for good routing and think that I would need a few yard length ones for some of the drives. [Edit: I clearly understand from these 7 videos that this man decided to order longer tubes for his liquid-cooled setup because of the case size.
    1. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6863281778900694832
    2. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...28255174829634
    3. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...63863001306561
    4. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...50957938629558
    5. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...88447993848367
    6. I haven't found part 6.
    7. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...74087050452502
    I have found another review video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...24556902766458.]
    Cheers,
    Chris

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    I just updated on of my systems with a Core 2 Duo processor and I'm only using the Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooling fan and the Zalman 120 mm case fan ($50 for both fans from NewEgg). Both fans are running at the slowest speed and barely make any sound. The CPU has never gone over 80F! Most of the time the fan on the CPU heatsink is not even running and still stays at around 78F. The system board probe shows the internal temp is at 110F. This computer has passive heatsinks on the video card (Nvidia 7600GT). My room temp is set to 78F. This is the quietest and coolest system I've built so far.

    I recommend getting a case that allows a 120mm fan venting out the back. I've read on many sites that fans in the front are not necessary and may even cause higher temperatures inside the case. Between the the back case fan and the power supply fan they should be able to pull air from the front to the back of the case without problems.

    Jim

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    I've gone with front intake fans, and passive exhaust (mostly - the power supply has an exhaust fan). The fans blow cool air on the HDDs, which get a workout in a sampler PC. Also, a high pressure system collects less dust than a low pressure system. My mobo temps are low, so it doesn't seem to be a problem.

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    Re: Help choosing between 2 DAW cases?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmdratz
    Edit 2: [/COLOR]However, what Thermalright 120 model do you use?
    I built my PC some time ago, using the XP-120, which is relatively small and light, compared to other top solutions
    http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/m...duct_xp120.htm

    It's not the Ultra 120 or Ultra 120 eXtreme. They came out later.
    http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/m...tra120_AMD.htm
    http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/m...20_extreme.htm

    I like the idea of a horizontal fan. A duct can be fashioned to direct the output out the back of some cases. Using the CPU fan to help move air out of the case - and getting the hot CPU air directly out of the case - would be sweet.

    Here are some ratings. The XP-120 was tops when I bought it. It's still among the best.

    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article30-page1.html

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