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    Re: The Death of Classical Music?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edi
    You are partly right but the main function of money is to store buying power and that is where the problems come from. From that it becomes an object in itself which can be traded, lent at usury, stolen, killed for, etc. All the great things humans excel at.
    These actions are not caused by money but by people who wish to misuse it. Looters, as they've been called.

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    Money, cash, credit cards and the stock market are insanely overvalued.

    I am much simpler man.

    I buy in salt and sell my services! I need salt to live! I can live with a goat I have in my backyard but not with a banknote. I don't see what youcan do with a banknote except to burn it to light a fire or something... ???

    (<- I'm an alien, aren't I?)
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    I'm pretty sure socialism wouldn't be good for classical music...
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    Re: The Death of Classical Music?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHannifin
    I'm pretty sure socialism wouldn't be good for classical music...
    Bad news, you live in a socialist society. And it is good for classical music... the government pays a good portion of NPR's tab.
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    Re: The Death of Classical Music?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen McMahan
    Evidently neither is capitalism, communism, aristocracies, democracies, chiefdoms .... not any organization of people. Looks like it'll have to fend for itself!
    Would anything be good for classical music?
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    Re: The Death of Classical Music?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHannifin
    Would anything be good for classical music?
    Yes.Take away movies, the internet, sport, video games, Cable TV and lousy pop music from every person on this planet.

    We would then go back to a time where "sound alone" was appreciated for what it is; a highly sophisticated and meaningful art form.

    The world is too frenetic and people are wanting too much from their entertainment and media. A slow movement of a symphony (or any movement for that matter) does not stand a chance in today's entertainment world.

    That is part of it.

    The other is purely historical. Both Jazz and Classical music has run it's course, from a compositional/stylisitic standpoint. There is nothing you or I can do with an orchestra or Jazz ensemble that has not been done before. This occurs when a musical style goes through an Avante Garde period. So essentially, yes both classical and Jazz is dead. Alone, it can no longer evolve and advance human thought and expression in a significant way.(notice I say "advance", we can still enjoy new and old works, but they wont blow our mind for their innovation)

    Pop music is in a similar situation, but chugs along as new technologies bring new sounds and production advancements that give it new life. Plus, lyrics and the newest fresh fresh can keep it evolving as they can quickly adapt to social topics and fashion.

    What art form is currently extremely vibrant, evolving and expressing/ analogizing today's issues?

    MOVIES!!!
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    Re: The Death of Classical Music?

    Quote Originally Posted by dubaifox
    The world is too frenetic and people are wanting too much from their entertainment and media. A slow movement of a symphony (or any movement for that matter) does not stand a chance in today's entertainment world.
    I don't see it even really being offered, unfortunately.

    Quote Originally Posted by dubaifox
    What art form is currently extremely vibrant, evolving and expressing/ analogizing today's issues?

    MOVIES!!!
    Ah, this is true, and I'd add electronic gaming to that.
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    Re: The Death of Classical Music?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHannifin
    ..... and I'd add electronic gaming to that.
    Yup!

    Artistic expression has been a part of every culture from the beginning of time and will continue to be.

    It will also evolve.

    Today the internet, reality programs, video games and movies have filled the roles of yesterdays Art Gallery's, Ballet's, Opera's and Classical music concerts.

    Before people started going in and shooting up dozens of innocent people, there were books, movies and video games that paved the way.

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    Re: The Death of Classical Music?

    Quote Originally Posted by dubaifox
    "Life imitates art"
    In theory exactly that and I agree with the whole of both your posts.

    However (as you pointed out as well), classical music is dead and for dead people. The attributes of our society today cannot be covered with classical music, nor should they! todays music should cover more the today than the past. But when you get children studying Bach (who is brilliant don't get me wrong), and get to buy as "modern" Bartok, then imagine what will these kids create in the near future... It's sad!

    Bottom line is that, at last, classical music is starting to take the place it deserves. In a museum!

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    In my opinion, if children are exposed to classical music, and their music classes are not too heavily weighted on, or soley focused on, the early standards, if they would have greater width to include lots of selections from romantinc period and early to mid 20th century, and some selections of the latests 21st century new artists, then the future of Classical music will be just fine.

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