Thirteen

[qccowboy]

I ahve to say that I agree wtih Matthew.. the one MAJOR flaw is that it's TOO SHORT!!

It's so lovely.
And it has a surprising "happiness" about it.

It almost gives one the impression of what we would get were we to put Mahler, Berg, and Richard Strauss into a giant blender and grow a whole new composer out of that (rather repulsive, when you think about it) mixture!

[trentpmcd]

Hi, Trent--Slight adjustment you made on this sounds fine to me. Very glad to come back. Hope more people catch your fine work.

Randy B.
(rbowser)

Hi Randy.

Glad you liked the new version. I had posted an update earlier. After that I was listening to something on my headphones (a symphony by Clementi – I had bought it while studying Beethoven and his contemporaries but it just showed up this week) and was amazed at how much "reverb" there was. With that I decided to go back and add even more into my final mix. I think it did help.

Thanks for posting again.

[trentpmcd]

I ahve to say that I agree wtih Matthew.. the one MAJOR flaw is that it's TOO SHORT!!

It's so lovely.
And it has a surprising "happiness" about it.

It almost gives one the impression of what we would get were we to put Mahler, Berg, and Richard Strauss into a giant blender and grow a whole new composer out of that (rather repulsive, when you think about it) mixture!

Hi Michel,

Ok, Ok, everyone has been saying it. I get the hint – I’ll make it longer.

Seriously, I have been thinking of some ways to expand it. The first thing I am going to try is to lighten the current ending and say that ends the “exposition”. I have a few ideas where to go from there, but no real clear vision yet – I usually like to know where I am going before I start.

I can see how you can get a “happy” feeling about it. It really doesn’t get dark until the end and most of the modulations are, how do you say it? major mediant relationships., which I think are very "positive" sounding modulations.

Mahler, R. Strauss and Berg in a blender… Hmmm, not very pleasant imagery…. On the other hand, any association with any of those three great composers is, of course, an honor.

Thanks for listening and for the kind comments.

[trentpmcd]

Bravo! Most excellent!

But --- Encore! Encore! Encore!


Ern

Hi Ern,

Thanks for the comments and the little “applause smilies”. (Working in a virtual world with a virtual orchestra virtual applause is the best that can be hoped for. ) Hopefully soon there will be more – I have some ideas I’m going to start working with.

[rayzalaf]

Getting better Trent,

Now you need to attack the horns, I should say try and work on the horn attack. it's just getting the note length/velocity thing right and it isn't easy.

Ray

[trentpmcd]

Getting better Trent,

Now you need to attack the horns, I should say try and work on the horn attack. it's just getting the note length/velocity thing right and it isn't easy.

Ray

Hi Ray,

It looks like you grew a mustache since I last talked to you….

Anyway, thanks for giving this another listen.

By horns are you talking French Horns specifically or speaking generally, like “horns = brass”? Anyway, I’ll play around a little with it, though you may not hear any new version for a while. As I said in some previous posts, I starting to throw around some ideas for making this a bit longer.

Anyway, thanks again for taking another listen.

[rbowser-]

Hi, Trent

I'm glad you asked Ray about his Horn advice--I wasn't sure either if he really meant Horns, French Horns, of if he was using the pop-generic term "Horns" as in meaning brass.

But also, I didn't understand "...getting the note length/velocity thing right..." --Note length and velocity are two very independent things. Length is going to be as you need for an arrangement. Changing that doesn't do anything regarding the "attack" which Ray is indicating he thinks needs work.

Velocity coupled with cc1, now of course those Will effect the attack and the varying degrees of aggressivenes.

Using the Overlays for Horns, Trumpets and Trombones make a Huge difference for getting a bigger variety of brass coloration in a piece.--I should add, a Sparing use of the Overlays works great.

I make a C&P copy of all related tracks (all of the Horns, for instance) and paste them all in a new MIDI track. I erase all cc1 data, then during a live playback and recording, ride the mod wheel to bring in touches of the Overlay sounds as needed.

Randy B.
(rbowser)

Randy B.
(rbowser)

[trentpmcd]

Hi, Trent
Using the Overlays for Horns, Trumpets and Trombones make a Huge difference for getting a bigger variety of brass coloration in a piece.--I should add, a Sparing use of the Overlays works great.

I make a C&P copy of all related tracks (all of the Horns, for instance) and paste them all in a new MIDI track. I erase all cc1 data, then during a live playback and recording, ride the mod wheel to bring in touches of the Overlay sounds as needed.

Randy B.
(rbowser)

Hello again Randy. I didn’t know if I should reply and bump this back to the top….

Anyway, what you described with the brass parts is exactly what I do. I write in Sibelius and then take the midi file into Cubase. It is a bare file (i.e., no mod wheel data). All of the parts are collapsed (i.e., four trumpet files in one channel, four horn parts in one channel, etc.) I make copies for each part and one for the f part (another for ff in horns). I reduce each of the separate instruments down to one part. I then draw in mod wheel data to try to balance out how much of the plain sound and how much of the f (or ff in horns) I want.

For this piece I did not spend as much time rendering as I could have – I wrote it to test a few ideas and not really to sound “finished” (none of my pieces sound too finished – I usually do GPO work to hear how they would sound if played by a real orchestra). When I expand this I will spend a little more time getting the sounds right.

Thanks for taking interest again.

[DelCarry]

Nicely done! Enjoyed it - I must concur with the dry mix. Still!

Thanks for posting! - Del

[trentpmcd]

Nicely done! Enjoyed it - I must concur with the dry mix. Still!

Thanks for posting! - Del

Hi Del. Thanks for responding - you must have dug this up form several pages down.

I've been playing around with expanding this. When I finally settle on something I'll try it with more reverb. I'm just using the Ambience that came with GPO. Someday I'll have to try a convulsive reverb.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to listen and for your comments.