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    Visitin' New Orleans

    THREE Classic Dixieland songs for Brass Quintet.


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    I like the instrument combo. Is it a traditional dixieland combo. I like the arrangements. It sometimes seems like the band kinda fades out a little in volume. Nice work.
    -Jay

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    Thanks Jay,
    A Brass quintet can play a lot of different styles, but
    I wouldn't †hink of this for a normal Dixieland group.
    The fading in the last movement was an effort at dynamics-a soft contrast to the robust-ness around i†.
    Gary

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    Hi, Gary

    This is a neat idea which took me by surprise - a traditional Brass Quintet playing New Orleans Jazz. The Clarinetist got to sit it out. And another interesting thing I wasn't expecting was that you focused on the arrangement without adding drums. Very clever, the whole concept.

    It felt a bit fragmented, un-anchored to me - I realized that what I was wishing was for more Tuba. The mix seems weak in the bass frequencies, so the trumpets Really dominate. It makes the sound have less of a solid foundation. But you're working in Finale as I recall? Are you using KP2? -I'm not yet, but my understanding is that EQ is available for each channel, so that kind of imbalance can be touched up if just moving the Tuba slider up doesn't do the trick.

    And here's what happened for me in the third movement when you have the band pull back in volume - The velocities and dynamics seem the same, so that the volume change sounded more like a knob being turned down. Do you see what I mean? Rather than cc1 and velocities getting tamer, it sounded liking everything was still at the same intensity of playing but that their volume sliders had been pulled back. I do a lot of volume work with audio faders when I work in Sonar, but I do have to be careful - at times the results can be unnatural when such a big change is introduced.

    Ah, one more thing - If you could introduce vibrato on the Trumpet sustained notes, it would be a nice touch.

    Thanks, Gary - I am Certain this is the first time I've seen New Orleans stuff here in The Listening Room. Thanks for it!

    Randy B.
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    Thanks Randy,
    Some†imes you seem to spot and ar†iculate what I've seen but not corrected. I'll work on those and re-post.
    I'm not satisfied with the total sound. It's like I need to "sand down"
    the edges.
    gary

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    Re: Visitin' New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by garymosse
    Thanks Randy,
    Some†imes you seem to spot and ar†iculate what I've seen but not corrected. I'll work on those and re-post.
    I'm not satisfied with the total sound. It's like I need to "sand down"
    the edges.
    gary
    Gary,

    If you've seen the problem why not try and correct it.
    "sand it down" is that as in wooden.
    There are minor changes needed in this piece which can only be achieved by soloing each instrument and giving it some expression. Then check with the other instruments that they are all playing nearly the same tune.
    I know this sounds very critical but please know I really want you to correct these things and make it sound great.

    My honest best

    Ray

    Randy check out http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/...100#post482100

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    Thanks Ray,
    It is different to write for this ensemble as oposed to a normal Dixieland group which has different tone colors which help contrast parts.
    That's not an excuse-just a fact to deal with...
    I will continue to work on it and re-post.
    Criticism is a necessary part of improving what one does.
    Gary

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    There are some good basic ideas in the arranging in
    this coming along Gary; but getting a good voicing
    in a venue like this can present interesting challenges.

    Probably the most productive things I can think to say
    are a.) beware voicings where the instruments "get
    in each other's way, since you don't have a lot of
    timbral difference to save your backside on holding
    line, and b.) take careful attention to preserving the
    fundamental, holding up the harmonic bottom, with
    clarity and strength.

    Hope that's of some general help...

    Best,



    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
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