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    New instruments

    I was wondering if there were any new libraries in the works? In particular something that might have some of the lesser used double reed instruments oboe d'amore, bass oboe, heckelphone, alto bassoon, tenor bassoon, and other sizes of sarrusophone (BTW thank you so much for including that in the newest library makes us sarrusophone players smile). If you need someone to sample the small bassoons I could lend my services to that cause.
    Thanks,
    Bret Newton

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    Re: New instruments

    I first thought you made a joke and put here some funny instrument with a name that sounds (sound of the word, in my ears) like some dinosaur thing, until I found a picture on the internet. How does it sound?




    Raymond

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    Re: New instruments

    I've never heard of alto or tenor bassoons, although I've often thought it would be a good idea if someone would make them.

    So...do they really exist? That would be cool.
    Dan Powers
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    "It's easier to be a composer than it is to compose."
    --Ray Luke (1928-2010)

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    Re: New instruments

    They do indeed exist. I play regularly the tenor in F pitched a fourth above the normal bassoon. There is also a tenor in G a fifth above and the alto or octave bassoon in C on octave above normal. The two tenors are a lot like the regular bassoon while the alto has much more limited keywork and range.

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    Re: New instruments

    Hehe. Wouldn't a Bassoon having a similar range to a trombone be a tenor instrument? I always thought of the English horn as alto and the oboe as soprano. If you want to get a full double reed ensemble, then you have S: oboe, A: English horn, T: Bassoon, B: Contrabassoon.
    Jess Hendricks
    DMA Student and Teaching Asst in Music Theory/ Composition at the University of Miami
    Personal Website

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    Re: New instruments

    Problem here is that bassoon and oboe are not in the same family at least no more than saxophones and clarinets. If you were to have and ensemble of double reeds then you would have: S-oboe, A-english horn, T-bassoon, B-bassoon. Contra would mearly double the octave like the double bass. Note the bassoon plays both the tenor and bass roles.

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    Lightbulb Re: New instruments

    Quote Originally Posted by jesshmusic
    Hehe. Wouldn't a Bassoon having a similar range to a trombone be a tenor instrument? I always thought of the English horn as alto and the oboe as soprano. If you want to get a full double reed ensemble, then you have S: oboe, A: English horn, T: Bassoon, B: Contrabassoon.
    The bassoon range extends from Bb below the bass clef to around G above the treble staff - covers a fair amount of bass, tenor and alto range.

    W. Heckel (the bassoon company) carries a wonderful CD that demonstrates the use of the heckelphone (an instrument based on the oboe, but an octave lower). The last part of the disc is "Pictures at an Exhibition" scored for a double reed quintet, basically (principle horn (double in parenthesis)):
    • oboe (oboe d'amore, english horn)
    • oboe (d'amore, english horn)
    • heckelphone (english horn)
    • bassoon
    • bassoon (contrabassoon)


    They get a good, full sound

    If you want the full list of available double reeds:
    Soprano:
    • piccolo heckelphone in F (very rare, but may be going back into production)
    • Eb oboe mussette
    • Eb sopranino sarrusophone
    • OBOE
    • soprano sarrusophone (Bb)
    • soprano rothophone (Bb)
    • Oboe d'amore (A)

    Alto:
    • English horn
    • Eb alto sarrusophone
    • Eb alto rothophone
    • octave bassoon (C)

    Tenor:
    • bass oboe (C)
    • heckelphone (C)
    • Bb tenor sarrusophone
    • Bb tenor rothophone

    Baritone:
    • tenoroon (bassoon in F or G)
    • Eb baritone sarrusophone
    • Eb baritone rothophone

    Bass:
    • bassoon
    • Bb bass sarrusophone
    • Bb bass rothophone

    Contrabass:
    • Eb contrabass sarrusophone
    • Reed contrabass (C) (still made in Italy)
    • CONTRABASSOON
    • C contrabass sarrusophone (pretty rare)
    • Bb contrabass sarrusophone (very rare)


    Shall we start lobbying Gary for GPDR?

    Enjoy,

    Grant
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    Grant Green ||| www.contrabass.com
    Sarrusophones and other seismic devices

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    Lightbulb Re: New instruments

    Quote Originally Posted by danpowers
    I've never heard of alto or tenor bassoons, although I've often thought it would be a good idea if someone would make them.

    So...do they really exist? That would be cool.
    Yep, check out Guntram Wolf.

    Enjoy,

    Grant
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    Grant Green ||| www.contrabass.com
    Sarrusophones and other seismic devices

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    Lightbulb Re: New instruments

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond62
    I first thought you made a joke and put here some funny instrument with a name that sounds (sound of the word, in my ears) like some dinosaur thing, until I found a picture on the internet. How does it sound?

    Raymond
    One of my favorite horns, especially the bass and contrabass sizes.

    Here's a quick sound clip (recorded during a long lunch one day - the other instruments are all bass flutes).

    Sounds better with a bit more practice...

    Enjoy,

    Grant
    Last edited by GDG; 08-13-2007 at 02:39 PM. Reason: corrected link
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    Grant Green ||| www.contrabass.com
    Sarrusophones and other seismic devices

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    Re: New instruments

    Quote Originally Posted by GDG
    One of my favorite horns, especially the bass and contrabass sizes.

    Here's a quick sound clip (recorded during a long lunch one day - the other instruments are all bass flutes).

    Sounds better with a bit more practice...

    Enjoy,

    Grant
    Grant,

    When I click on your link, quick sound clip, I get this message:


    You don’t have permission to open this page.
    You don’t have permission to view “GoodbyeHat2.mp3”.


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