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    A Quick Sonar 6 Question

    When setting up a new composition in Sonar 6 would it be better to open a template with no tracks and let the tracks be created when I add KP2? I've been in the habit of opening a Midi tracks template and then when I insert KP2 I wind up with an ungodly and unmanageable set of tracks. What do most of you do when you start a new composition? Any way I can ease the workflow is what I'm looking for.

    I'm thinking that if I let Sonar 6 create the tracks when I insert KP2 that all of the proper routings will be taken care of. Isn't this correct?
    Jerry
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    Re: A Quick Sonar 6 Question

    Wow this is a good question. I've used templates and not. Coming up with a general workflow in this new (to me) world of software sound sources has been trial and error here, and I am usually loading very large ensembles. Anybody's thoughts and contributions on this subject will be well appreciated!
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    Re: A Quick Sonar 6 Question

    I've always wanted to set up some nice templates for myself, but it always seems to be more trouble than I want to work with. Usually I start by opening an old work that has a similar instrumentation, and re-saving it as a new project.
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    Re: A Quick Sonar 6 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Skysaw
    I've always wanted to set up some nice templates for myself, but it always seems to be more trouble than I want to work with. Usually I start by opening an old work that has a similar instrumentation, and re-saving it as a new project.
    Well, I do want to set up a template. However, this is my first project with CoMB and I don't have any prior projects to steal a template from.
    Jerry
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    Re: A Quick Sonar 6 Question

    I use templates. Because it's kinda tedious and boring to set up,
    I'd recommend doing a little bit each day (say, one orchestra section).
    In less than a week you'll have a complete orchestra template set up to
    your liking.

    If I'm doing something smaller, I generally start with no tracks. Then
    I Insert the K2 vst with just the first Synth Output selected. This creates
    one audio track and one Midi track.

    Then I Clone the Midi track as many times as I need and update the Channel
    setting for each of the tracks.
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    Re: A Quick Sonar 6 Question

    Well, I was trying to find a way around having to set everything manually but it sounds like I'll have to. I can then save the setup as a template for future uses, I guess. <sigh>
    Jerry
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    Re: A Quick Sonar 6 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybee
    Well, I was trying to find a way around having to set everything manually but it sounds like I'll have to. I can then save the setup as a template for future uses, I guess. <sigh>
    Really, that's what I've been doing. I also do what SkySaw does - wipe the data from a previous work and use that. I sometimes save that as a template (named something like "MY KP2 Concert Band," or "MY Basic Woodwind Quintet"). Then I add or subtract or change instruments/features as I need them. When KP2 came out I had to re-do some of my templates which was a pain but well worth it when I open a new project and can just "start." Now that I have CoMB I am building new templates and, being a GPO owner as well, I am having to decide if I will include the Trumpet Sections from CoMB as well as the Overlays/Players from GPO. Decisions, decisions! But part of the process.

    Coming up with those intial templates is a job, though. If you find an easier solution I'd really like to find out!
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