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    Theory question on chord progressions

    I once saw a chart that had chords laid out in kind of a honeycomb layout where you could modulate from one chard to any other chord that was connected to the chord you are on. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Do you know where I could find such a chart?

    Thanks,
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    Re: Theory question on chord progressions

    Wait let me get out my professorial hat...


    There are three common types of modulation in diatonic functional harmony.

    Common chord- A chord shared by both the key you are in and the key to which you are going is used as a pivot chord. For example in G Major, an A minor chord (ii) reinterpreted as the submediant of C Major(vi).

    Common tone- A tone shared by two keys is sustained by itself and reinterpreted into the new key. For example in G major, the Note A, the 5th of the Dominant reinterpreted as the Root of A major which concievebly becomes the dominant in D major (or some other major chord in some other key).

    Tonicization- The isertion of a chord with a dominant function in relation to the chord you were just on (ie. secondary dominant) which immediately transfers you to the new key. For example in G major, an A minor followed by E Major (requring a G# accidental,) creating the KEY of A minor.

    Typically "modulation" refers to movement between keys, not chords. Chords you just go to, although I do remember once seeing a honeycomb like layout for the possible chord progressions. It looked something like


    V/V
    I- V--ii--vi---
    vii IV

    Meaning vi can take you to ii or IV which can lead to V or vii,,,,blah blah blah, you end up back at tonic.

    hope that helps.

    Matt


    P.S. That "chase chart" thing is just the circle of 5ths. We've known about that one for a while now.

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    Is this anything?

    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

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    Or this?

    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

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    One more...

    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

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    Re: Theory question on chord progressions

    Quote Originally Posted by fiziwig
    I once saw a chart that had chords laid out in kind of a honeycomb layout where you could modulate from one chard to any other chord that was connected to the chord you are on. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Do you know where I could find such a chart?

    Thanks,
    --gary shannon
    I used a few books in the past 31 years. The best that I have ever used is "Basic Principles of Music Theory by Joseph Brye. Just my personal opinion but this is the best of the best. I no longer have the whole book only several key pages that I photocopied. It is the book I used when I studied theory and harmony at Los Angeles City Collete in 1776 - 1978. I think you could find it with a google.
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    Re: Theory question on chord progressions

    Reberclark,
    Is there something else that goes with those? The first two charts both say "The expression X/Y means play chord X with scale note Y as the bass note," which is just what i need, but there aren't any X's and Y's on there.

    David

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    "...It is the book I used when I studied theory and harmony at Los Angeles City College in 1776 - 1978..."

    Wow, Samantha, you sure hold your age well!

    Randy B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbowser-
    "...It is the book I used when I studied theory and harmony at Los Angeles City College in 1776 - 1978..."

    Wow, Samantha, you sure hold your age well!

    Randy B.
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