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    Help with Brass on GPO

    I opened this thread on the support forum, but it seems that this is the right forum to put my question on.
    So, I'm having trouble in getting the Hollywood massive sound with the brass (trumpets, trombones, tubas...). I know that it is possible to get this sound because I found it on a demo I heard in the demo page.
    I tried adding reverb, changing dynamics, adding overlay and solo instruments and nothing worked - I just couldn't get the sound I wanted!
    Any help please?

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    Re: Help with Brass on GPO

    (I also posted this with Dreamflight's other request - apologies for the duplicate post):

    There's a tutorial on the Garritan Site that explains a little about how to use brass, but I, too, would like to see anybody's input here on how they use/layer/program their brass patches (GPO or JABB or CoMB) for specific uses (dark section sound, killer big band trumpets, massive orchestral brass - all sections). I think this is the one of the weakest areas of information on the boards here and the brass patches seem to be the toughest (for me) to get satisfaction out of. All help appreciated!
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    Re: Help with Brass on GPO

    EDIT: there's another thread over here about this, so I won't doubplepost anymore.

    http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/...ad.php?t=56343


    Two things that might help:

    1) I believe it's not very well known but the samples that are marked with "AG" (aggressive) have a separate MIDI control for timbre brightness. That plus some meticulous tweaking of mod control in the overlays should get your Hollywood up and running.

    2) Don't be afraid to experiment: maybe a tuba overlay works for trombone reinforcement or vice-versa? Or stick some discreet tutti organ behind the brass?

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    Re: Help with Brass on GPO

    I agree that the brass seem to require a lot of treaking in order to get a satisfactory sound. Try the Fr. Horn ff sounds, in addition to the AG ones. They have some pretty good punch, too. But you definitely have to draw (or play) the swells in with cc1 to get a good effect. Adding percussion to the mix like a timani roll or sus. cymbal crescendo can add extra sizzle to a brass swell.

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    Re: Help with Brass on GPO

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamflight
    I opened this thread on the support forum, but it seems that this is the right forum to put my question on.
    So, I'm having trouble in getting the Hollywood massive sound with the brass (trumpets, trombones, tubas...). I know that it is possible to get this sound because I found it on a demo I heard in the demo page.
    I tried adding reverb, changing dynamics, adding overlay and solo instruments and nothing worked - I just couldn't get the sound I wanted!
    Any help please?
    I had a similar question a while back when I needed to create that big Brass stab on a chord in one of my first pieces. DPDan gave some good advice using a compressor on a copied track of the brass. It certainly gave that punch i was looking for but it also lost a bit of the realism, naturally. Here's the thread http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/...ad.php?t=31120

    I hope it helps.

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