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    Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    Just wondering how you guys go about organizing your samples?

    Do you organize them by instrument, company, or sample type or what? If you could type out your sample folder tree setup that would be great!


    I was thinking along the lines of this:

    E: Drive/Samples/
    ----Orchestral_Classical
    ----------Strings
    -------------Cello
    ---------------Sample Company
    -------------------Series
    -------------Violin
    ---------------Sample Company
    -------------------Series
    --------Woodwind
    --------Brass
    --------Percussion
    --------Keys
    ----Modern_Instruments
    --------Strings
    -------------Guitar
    ---------------Sample Company
    -------------Bass Guitar
    ---------------Sample Company
    --------Drums
    ----Electronic_Instruments
    -----Vintage_Analog
    --------E-Pianos
    -----------Clavinet
    ---------------Sample Company
    --------Synthesizers
    -----Vintage_Digital
    --------Samplers
    --------Drum Machines
    --------E-Piano
    ----World_Instruments
    -----U.K.
    ---------Woodwind
    -------------Bag Pipes
    ----------------Sample Company
    -----East Europe
    -----Middle East
    -----East Asia
    -----South East Asia
    -----North America
    -----South America
    ----Loops
    -----Industrial
    ---------Sample Company
    --------------Series
    ------------------BPM
    -----Rock
    -----Hip-Hop


    I feel like i'm forgetting something Any suggestions or comments? and please let me know how you do it yourself.

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    After a while I lost track.

    Now my samples/audio drive has 5 directoris:
    Samples, audio, Video, Backup (from the C drive a few stuff) and another one.
    Once you open audio or Samples it's hell in there! Especially samples with some stuff I've downloaded from various places, it's full of zip and rar files!

    But basically I've not tidied up much, Cause I don't really need to. I rarely open that folder. I just open the samplers/VIs and run them up, which loads immediately whereever the samples are. No need to be tidy there...

    I do clean the audio folder a bit, but hard thing is that I want to keep open projects there, and when games go for 6 months or so with 45 minutes of audio, then I get filled up rather quickly...

    I do suspect that if you go for a sample library like EW (for example) you wouldn't need to specifiy different folders for each symphonic instrument. They come at 2 GB nki files, which are huge and contain everything in there...

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    Well I would put the big ones that come as VSTis in a seperate place but not all Samples come with a VSTi.

    I want to avoid chaos and un organization as much as possible even though Kontakt does a pretty good job of keeping things organized.

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    My External Sample hard drive is organized by Manufacturer and/or Format

    Akai Samples (from my old Akai Library, converted to EXS)
    .....American Heartland
    .....Bass Legends
    .....Digital Boy
    .....Distorted Reality
    .....Hans Zimmer Guitars
    ect...
    Apple Loops
    Art Vista
    .....Virtual Grand
    .....Cool Vibes
    East West Choirs
    East West Platinum
    East West RA
    Garritan Grofiller
    Garritan Big Band & Jazz
    etc...

    This is the Hierarchy and folder management for the samples themselves.

    Then within Logic, My EXS sample instrument library is organized by Instrument groups

    Basses
    .....Acoustic
    .....Electric
    ............Bass Legends
    ............Will Lee
    ..................P bass
    ..................Hoffner Bass
    ..................Sadowsky 4 String
    ..................Yamaha Fretless
    .....Synth Basses
    ect....
    Brass
    .....Memphis Horns
    .....Miroslav
    .....Opus 1
    ................Trumpet
    ................Trumpet Ensemble-3
    ................Horn
    ................Horn Ensemble-3
    .....................Horn Repetitions
    ..............................Basic Instruments
    ..............................Combinations
    ................Trombone
    ................Trombone Ensemble
    ................Tuba
    etc.....

    So my sample instruments library is first categorized by instrument group, such as "keyboards", then split into types of keyboards such as pianos (acoustic/grand/ upright... electric Rhodes/Wurlitezers, etc...) Then by Manufacturer (Scarbee/Sampletekk/Vinaudio, etc...), and finally, the actually instrument, and all of it's sub categories...

    Obviously, instruments like the new Vienna VI's, East West, or anything like that, has it's own hierarchy built in.

    Bottom line, just do what makes sense to you.

    Hope that gives you some ideas...

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    I am reorganizing now with the great mediabay in cubase 4. When finished, I can search by all keywords as, trumpets, strings, Garritan, Eastwest, deep cluster, sfx.... and so on and so on.... .
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

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    Talking Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    What a great question!!

    I've been .... well "de-comissioned" for health reasons over the last few years.

    But I remember spending a grand total of 82 hours listening to, categorizing, and subcategorizing every sample in my library.

    With Giga's Alpha search, I couldn't resist. It was a worthwile venture....despite my ex-wife's opinion.

    I now can locate virtually any sample in my library within a few clicks of defining what I'm looking for.

    It was a painstaking process. But I can't even imagine how anyone avoids it...unless they love the mystery of guessing where something is.

    I also have my Library triple backed up,..... because if I ever lost all that work that I did, I don't know if I'd have the stomach or the energy to redo it again.

    So I don't take for granted the monumental energy it take to "organize" 100 gigs or more of samples. (Even though that is seeming smaller every day).

    But once its done, you feel like the owner of a 2000 acre cattle ranch!!!.

    Personally, I go simply by category ( i.e. orchestral, percussion, bass, synth, FX) then instrument, type, subtype, and specialty if any.

    So generally, I'm 5 clicks away from pretty much any sound I desire.

    Neeto huh!!

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    Cool to see what you guys are up to. Though Jaimo I don't really see a need in organizing by Format as most sample players can load any format now (atleast i know Kontakt can).

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by germancomponist
    I am reorganizing now with the great mediabay in cubase 4. When finished, I can search by all keywords as, trumpets, strings, Garritan, Eastwest, deep cluster, sfx.... and so on and so on.... .
    A little OT, but still:

    How can you be sure that you only have to do the reorganizing once? What I mean is, what if your harddrive crashes and you have to install everything again. Will the organizing in Mediabay still work? Can you save it somehow, do you know?

    I'm about to crossgrade to Cubase from Logic, and think the Mediabay looks very cool, that's why I'm asking. But I wouldn't want to spend hour after hour organizing stuff only to find that I will have to do it all over if my harddrive crashes. I had a 250 GB harddrive crash on me once - after that, I bought an external HD for backup!!

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by hbjdk
    I'm about to crossgrade to Cubase from Logic
    Awww , what was wrong with Logic that is making you switch to Cubase?

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    Re: Organzing All your Samples? How do you do it?

    I keep it easy.

    On all my computers I use

    drive V: ViennaInstrument -> Symphionic Cube
    drive S: All other sounds organized in 2 directories
    S:\GIGS ---> GigaStudio (organized by company)
    S:\NI ------> all sounds managed by Kontakt & Absynth

    That is enough.
    Others I don't have.

    :-) Jovan
    the man with the blue guitar

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