Wow...what an undertaking to input and produce this work. There aren't much larger undertakings save maybe his 8th Symphony or a Wagnerian opera! Really excellent production too. You make the GPO sound so real here.
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Fantastic. I love Mahler, and this movement's high drama just gets me where I live. EXCEllent realization of it - Congrats and mUCh thanks to you for posting it!
#5, my favorite. What a great time to pop into the listening room. Listening to it now Bill, and all i can say is wow, excellent!!!
Are you going to be doing all the movments? My DSO/Litton CD of #5 is 71 minutes, that seems like it would take like a year to do that. Would be great though!
I saw "Mahler" and thought, I must hear this. And I didn't regret. What an achievement. Great!!!
Benjamin Zander and the Philharmonia it is not, but for GPO it is very good.
I like that in this version you can hear certain orchestral parts that get covered up in a live or recorded version of a real orchestra. Gives a better understanding of how Mahler pieced everything together to get the overall sound - we might not hear something during a live performance but we know it is there and something would be missing without it. Funny how that works. Then there are sadly places where important parts are missing: at the 5:08-5:14 section there is a unison horn line that is completely covered up by the rest of the orchestra that should be blasting out over all of it.
Things seem to decrescendo much too quickly around the 10 minute mark, IMHO. Shame we don't have col legno samples for the end (hint, hint).
Nice sound on the final pizz - not too soft as some performances make it, which is completely wrong - it should be louder than the preceding trumpet/flute line - a sardonic, sarcastic pizz, not a quite ending pizz like Brahms.
What instrumentation did you use primarily for the brass? (standard, forte, ag, etc?)
Very nice. Since I'm not really familiar with the piece I didn't have any preconceptions going in, so I can't compare it to any standard other than that I found it very enjoyable. Good work.
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Thanks Gary. You're right. There isn't much bigger except for the Eighth and Wagner. I'veOriginally Posted by GaryBric
tackled a couple of Wagner pieces and have decided to wait for GPOA.
Thanks Randy. Good luck with Dorian. Or should that be 'break a leg'.Originally Posted by rbowser-
Thanks David. Actually I am thinking of trying the second movement. Notice I said "try",Originally Posted by Leaf
lol. I was pushing the very limits of GPO with this one and you how wild the second movement
Thanks Raymond. I appreciate your comments.Originally Posted by Raymond62
First, thanks for the in depth critique. Much appreciated. Good call on the horns. I went back and discovered that while the horns were quite loud at that passage, they were indeed buried by the orchestra. I reinforced them then redlined them. They are now audible. The links have been updated with a remix.Originally Posted by ALynn
For the decrescendo, I claim conducter's prerogative, lol. That's how I hear it.Things seem to decrescendo much too quickly around the 10 minute mark, IMHO. Shame we don't have col legno samples for the end (hint, hint).
I agree. I've heard too many conductors make the pizz too soft.Nice sound on the final pizz - not too soft as some performances make it, which is completely wrong - it should be louder than the preceding trumpet/flute line - a sardonic, sarcastic pizz, not a quite ending pizz like Brahms.
I had just about all the horns loaded and switched back and forth according to which horn or combo of horns sounded best for a given passage. In the passage at 5:08 I finally used French horn 1 Plr 1 in combo with FHorn Overlay FF and French horn 2 Plr 1 also in combo with FHorn Overlay FF.What instrumentation did you use primarily for the brass? (standard, forte, ag, etc?)
I would like comment here that the 1904 version is the first edition. Those familiar with this piece may hear differences with other versions they are accustomed to. That's one of the pitfalls of performing Bruckner-Mahler. Which version to use. Mahler spent the rest of his life rewriting the Fifth and the final version was only recently published.
I agree with others that this was an enormous undertaking. You've done a wonderful and inspiring job.