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    Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    A Stereosample, for example a solotrumpet, has an included roominformation..., yes, no?

    If it is recorded as dry as dry as dryer, also there is an early reflection information included..., hm?

    But now at this days, when we are mixing our instruments by using the great new reverbs like Altiverb....., do we need stereosamples?

    What do you think?
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    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    Yes.

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  3. #3

    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Richter
    Yes.

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    Why?

    We can use so many great VR`s in this reverb effects...
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    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    The real thing sounds better than the fake thing, at least for now, and for my purposes.

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    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Richter
    The real thing sounds better than the fake thing, at least for now, and for my purposes.
    Hm,

    isn`t a trumpet solo instrument mono?

    Let me ask otherwise... : So, when we use stereosamples, add then virtual early reflections and reverb..., this result would never sound real..., yes, no?
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

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    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    I still do a lot of work with older systems like the Kurzweil K2600s where polyphony and RAM memory is at a premium, so I've given this issue a lot of thought. A good stereo recording, even of a solo instrument, contains all sorts of information that our ears have evolved to interpret, and thus is far more realistic. I actually prefer stereo samples that don't have lots of room sound.

    For my purposes if I'm creating a brass or woodwind section or emulating a dense orchestration I'm not going to use stereo samples of each instrument. On the other hand if I'm emulating one or two exposed solo instruments I'll use a good stereo sample if available, even if I have to jump through a lot of hoops to make the memory and polyphony available.

    When I saw your subject line I thought you might be posting about the need for samples in surround or other multi-channel formats.

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    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    Quote Originally Posted by TechEverlasting
    When I saw your subject line I thought you might be posting about the need for samples in surround or other multi-channel formats.
    Smile,

    but do you agree? Is my question a good question?
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    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Richter
    The real thing sounds better than the fake thing, at least for now, and for my purposes.
    Ah...,

    so what`s about vivi, synful and other virtual instruments?

    And, a recorded solotrumpet in a room without any reflections isn`t a fake...., ves, no?
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    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    Quote Originally Posted by germancomponist
    Hm,
    isn`t a trumpet solo instrument mono?
    Perhaps in some contexts.

    In an orchestral context, the room is part of the instrument, and not at all "mono" by the time it hits our ears.

    Room placement and reverb simulation is getting better all the time.

    However, it's my prediction that before stereo samples are obsolete, synthesis technology will have rendered plain old raw samples obsolete altogether, thus rendering the question somewhat irrelevant.

  10. #10

    Re: Do we need no longer Stereosamples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Richter
    Perhaps in some contexts. In an orchestral context, the room is part of the instrument, and not at all "mono".
    VR,

    I agree 100%, but, excuse me if I said it not clearly, I am talking about sample libraries recording.

    So, what do you think? Better to record all instruments in "dry" mono or better record them in a room where you can catch a little roominformation, for a great stereorecording?
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

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