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    A. Gabrieli - Del gran Tuonante le sorella e moglie

    Here is another installment in the "WideScreen" Gabrieli series. This time the work was composed by Uncle Andrea, his choral work for ten voices and organ bass line, "Del gran Tuonante le sorella e moglie". The work is divided into two sections; Prima parte and Madragalia.

    Here I have set it for two brass choirs separated left and right. The rendering is in Finale 2006 with GPO and JABB brass as follows;

    Choir 1 (Left):
    Trpt 1 Plr 1
    Trpt 2 Plr 1
    French Horn Plr 1
    Tenor Trombone Plr 1
    Bass Trombone Open (JABB)
    Tuba 1 Solo

    Choir 2 (Right):
    Trpt 1 Plr 2
    Trpt 2 Plr 2
    French Horn Plr 2
    Tenor Trombone Plr 2
    Bass Trombone Open (JABB)
    Tuba 2 Solo

    The Garritan Ambience is set for 2.7 sec Decay Time with a Diffusion of 33% to yield the cathederal effect.

    www.garybricault.com/mp3/GabrieliDelGranTuonante.mp3

    Gary

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    I think I prefer Orange Pekoe as opposed to Earl Grey. But the mixing is great. I love the idea of using the 2 'choirs' to give this a very full effect. I never got studio down as well as you seem to. Nice work with the ambience.

    Well done

    Ron

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    Re: A. Gabrieli - Del gran Tuonante le sorella e moglie

    Quote Originally Posted by rolifer
    I think I prefer Orange Pekoe as opposed to Earl Grey. But the mixing is great. I love the idea of using the 2 'choirs' to give this a very full effect. I never got studio down as well as you seem to. Nice work with the ambience.

    Well done

    Ron
    Ron,

    Thanks for stopping by for a listen. Yeah the 2 choirs is actually how the vocal is divided up. I think that the bold GPO brass is a perfect alternate to the voice parts. Actually all of the work is done in Finale and not Studio.

    Gary

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    The brass does a very nice job of standing in for the choirs. I like it, but then I'm partial to brass ensembles. Keep up the good work.
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    Re: A. Gabrieli - Del gran Tuonante le sorella e moglie

    Quote Originally Posted by fiziwig
    The brass does a very nice job of standing in for the choirs. I like it, but then I'm partial to brass ensembles. Keep up the good work.
    Gary,

    Thanks for stopping by to hear it. I am very partial to brass myself as you have probably noticed.

    I totally agree. The GPO orchestral brass is very well suited to provide the solid sound needed here. The only exception is that bass trombone that I take from the JABB. It has a smoother sound in the low range than the GPO equivalent.

    Gary

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    The brass does do a fine job of substituting for the choirs,
    Gary.

    Technically... I wonder if somewhat less reverb might serve
    this better. Not the tail -- I know you want that there to
    simulate a large cathedral-like space; but, rather a little
    more dry and a little less wet in the mix. (Also, perhaps,
    predelay set low, if you haven't.) To tell you the truth,
    I found it difficult, even in headphones, to really pick up
    on the antiphonal dialog between the choirs and the
    articulations of the voices.

    Solid arrangement, though -- with a couple of live brass
    choirs in a real space... this would definitely be impressive!

    My best,



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    Sounds great Gary! I'm also a lover of Brass. You're able to get a sound from the upper brass that i tried to get but haven't yet, not sure how to describe it, that very brassy bell sound that gives it so much realism, you picture all the players with their old favorite aged horns rather than a bunch of sparkling new ones. Nice work!

    David

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    Re: A. Gabrieli - Del gran Tuonante le sorella e moglie

    Quote Originally Posted by etLux
    The brass does do a fine job of substituting for the choirs,
    Gary.

    Technically... I wonder if somewhat less reverb might serve
    this better. Not the tail -- I know you want that there to
    simulate a large cathedral-like space; but, rather a little
    more dry and a little less wet in the mix. (Also, perhaps,
    predelay set low, if you haven't.) To tell you the truth,
    I found it difficult, even in headphones, to really pick up
    on the antiphonal dialog between the choirs and the
    articulations of the voices.

    Solid arrangement, though -- with a couple of live brass
    choirs in a real space... this would definitely be impressive!

    My best,



    David
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    Thanks for your comments David.

    I get it from both side, less reverb, more reverb....haha. I was after the big cathederal sound here. Actually the diaglog is very subtle, stair stepped between instruments and not an abrupt left and right dialog. So it is not necessarily obvious that it is occuring. But there is a certain spatial seperation that occurs, just not a lot of it that you can hear.

    Gary

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    Re: A. Gabrieli - Del gran Tuonante le sorella e moglie

    Quote Originally Posted by Leaf
    Sounds great Gary! I'm also a lover of Brass. You're able to get a sound from the upper brass that i tried to get but haven't yet, not sure how to describe it, that very brassy bell sound that gives it so much realism, you picture all the players with their old favorite aged horns rather than a bunch of sparkling new ones. Nice work!

    David
    David,

    Thanks for listening and your comments. I don't really do anything special to get the upper sound. I think that part of it is the relationship that exists due to the way that the music was composed to get the most out of the voices in the huge, echoing spaces. I use the GPO trumpets as I like their orchestral, steely sound that best.

    Gary

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    Such as grand and stately sound, Gary. Very well-done! I will agree with etLux in that personally I would like to hear just a little less "wetness" yet without losing that great cathedral ambience. I grew up surrounding myself with early music, and you do beautifully capture that spirit--in a most creative way.


    Saraswati

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