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    Lightbulb UNF Wind Ensemble

    Our recording guy does a decent job, but he gets only the front row distinctly. So it has become my job to juice up our recordings for the CD.

    Here is "Hey!", conducted by Dr. Gordon Brock, performed bythe UNF Wind Ensemble. The actual composer I cannot remember, I will have that information soon. There is no GPO, I'm just showing off our band.

    http://www.box.net/shared/m5oc6ptru4

    This is a comparison of the original unedited recording and the one where I hopefully did a decent job enhancing the sound. Tips greatly appreciated.

    http://www.box.net/shared/g23d7olvh7


    (ps. this is also the reason i havent made any posts or comments in a while...we're prepping for a Carnegie Hall performance, and I have to practice my ~~~ off.)


    IMPORTANT!!! As I work through the rest of our concert, I will be posting them here. Shouldn't take more than the weekend to get all the edits par.


    Sanctuary by Frank Ticheli


    http://www.box.net/shared/f1jpk28suj

    -- You'll have to forgive the bumps. That's another reason I don't like our sound engineer. He really thinks he knows what he's doing, but his many flaws show. This is also done at 128-bit. I usually post everything at 256, but this was too large to put on box.net at 256. Sorry about the downgrade.
    Yours Truly,
    TubaJediMaster
    May the Fourth Be With You

    My demos:
    http://www.box.net/shared/ejtluyupfb

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    Carnegie Hall, i have played there many times. Actually i have never even been in Carnegie Hall. Congrats!!

    You will do well young Tubajedi, sounds like you have an awesome band. Fine performance!

    Also sounds like you have done a very good job with the mix, but i haven't yet listened to the before, only listened to the after. I could hear you on the tuba and the other brass, brought them up just the right amount, and good job bringing up the percussion.

    But maybe the experts here will be able to give more experienced advice.


    David

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    Re: UNF Wind Ensemble

    Hi, Tuba

    You did a great job on upping the ante on the recording--I listened to both. --Hummm, your sound guy isn't using enough mikes, to end up with such an unbalanced recording. He really needs to string up mikes all over the place and make multi-track recordings--or maybe this Is multi-track?

    But the band sounds very good, the piece is a really fun, bristling romp - tsk tsk not telling us who the composer is - (composers, just don't get enough respect!).

    CONGRATS on the upcoming concert--that's fantastic.

    Good job on rescuing the recording.

    Randy B.
    (rbowser)

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    Re: UNF Wind Ensemble

    Haha. Shame on me I know.

    Thanks Bowser. It is only a 1 track recording. The set up was two mics hoverd over the conductor. This gets a lot of front row, and almost no back row. And very little percussion. I used equalizer style of breaking up tracks by their Hz. Then I balanced them left or right depending on the extremities that were imposing on the overall sound. For example, our oboe player sticks out a lot because shes right under one of the mics. I had to fade that track left almost entirely to diminish her sound. But then with another 600Hz track layed on it, I faded that almost all the way right, where the tuba, timpani, bass clarinet, bassoons are. For the horn, I made a mid track, 600Hz to 3000Hz, by using a filter, then I faded it to the left a lot because the Horns weren't coming through.
    Yours Truly,
    TubaJediMaster
    May the Fourth Be With You

    My demos:
    http://www.box.net/shared/ejtluyupfb

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    Ah, I see - Thanks for the greater detail, Tuba.

    You mean it's a 2 track recording, single stereo pair. Oh my - extremely primitive way to record a band, and with the mikes hovering up by the conductor, picking up the front row so much. Pretty bad set up. Not to be overly harsh, but it seems like the sound engineer would put out some effort since a CD is in the works.

    But the way you worked with the various frequencies, trying to squeeze out as much balancing work as you could - excellent job. I'm impressed. As I said earlier, you improved the recording immensely.

    Randy B.
    (rbowser)

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    Right 2 track stereo. My fault. I'll post the very original full length so you can hear how bad it all was.

    http://www.box.net/shared/czmg452rdv

    Just around the beginning you can hear how dry and loud the front row is.

    For the most part the brass is already wet, it just needed more.
    Yours Truly,
    TubaJediMaster
    May the Fourth Be With You

    My demos:
    http://www.box.net/shared/ejtluyupfb

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    Wow, very interesting project, Ben!

    Thanks for detailing how you went about this...
    and a solid clap on the back for some intelligent,
    ingenious, and very successful workmanship
    on this.

    Impressive work.

    My best,



    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
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    Thanks David. Always a good word from you. I did spent a great deal of time working on this mix.

    Sorry I didn't notice your comment before Leaf. I hope you can forgive!! Thanks for listening and enjoying our band at UNF.
    Yours Truly,
    TubaJediMaster
    May the Fourth Be With You

    My demos:
    http://www.box.net/shared/ejtluyupfb

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    Re: UNF Wind Ensemble

    I can forgive, Ben, and you are very welcome, it was my pleasure to hear it.

    I was missing posts in threads in general discussion, when i used to start at the bottoms of the threads.

    I can see that my assumption that you mainly had to repair the sound of the instruments in the back was wrong. Yes that front is very dry, and the dryness was quelling all the seperation and detail far more than i thought it could, you sure have done an outstanding job of bringing them back to life.

    I think you will do great at the Carnegie Hall performance, i hope there will be a recording of that.

    David

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