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    OT: Need a website

    Could someone point me in a direction for building my own website for promoting my composing business. I just really dont have the money to throw at someone to do it for me as I am in the middle of remodeling my studio (also on my own) and of course, filling it with goodies. I am currently PC based and will always have one around even if I do change to a MAC (inevitable) for my DAW. I just need to know of a decent software to learn and develop a website. I admit that I dont know what I'm doing yet but I WILL learn and get this done. And then I of course need a service to host my site. Money IS an object but I also realize that it takes what it takes. I want to develop a site that has graphics with a decent player on it to host my demo music and be able to easily manipulate it as I need to. Thanks guys. I know there are people here that know all about this stuff. Thanks.

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    I've been doing site work for probably 6 or 8 yrs. Even if I was starting out from scratch I'd ( personally ) not want to deal with anything less than Dreamweaver 4. ( Version 3 is OK also )
    If you could get a good deal on that somewhere, maybe eBay, I'd highly recommend it as an HTML tool. ( see below for ftp )
    However, "Coffee Cup" has a free version. I messed with it once quite a few yrs. ago and / but ... it was nearly as annoying as Front Page. I suppose one could get used to "Coffee Cup" and get good results.
    There might be other free WYSIWYG HTML editors out there.
    Google is your friend!

    "WS_FTP" is a rock solid tank of an FTP program and I believe you can still find a free version.

    For hosting I use www.webhost4life.com and so do about 8 of my clients.
    Once you get past the initial configuration ( actually getting the emails ... I think their administration has moved to Asian outsourcing ) it's a breeze.

    For a domain registrar I use www.register.com Their control panel is very easy to use and even though they're $35.00 / yr. ( I'm sure you could find someone cheaper ) It's worth it to me to have the fast and reliable phone support and user control panel.

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    If you are ready to invest some time, then you don't need any software for website development other than a very basic text editor. When I was learning html and css, I found these sites useful:

    http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/lessons.html

    http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp

    http://www.w3schools.com/css/

    http://www.pageresource.com/dhtml/cssprops.htm

    http://www.echoecho.com/htmlbasics.htm

    http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp

    This info was enough to get me started and maybe it could help you? This is not going to be enough to write mega-flashy web pages, but one will be able to produce something that looks nice and professional if one is willing to invest the time in learning html and css. If you've ever programmed before or used word processors in the late 70's or 80's (troff anyone? ) then html will already be familiar.

    As an FTP tool, I find that the free extension, FireFTP, which is part of Firefox is easy and works well.
    Best regards,

    Little Red King
    http://luridcactus.com/MusicPage.html

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    Is there any shame in using one of these sites that sort of does it all like

    http://www.web.com/website-hosting-2...acr=MS16322192

    or

    https://www.register.com/product/web...cmx?SEMMSN=MSN

    or

    http://www.webpiston.com/ ?

    Now that I've looked around a bit, maybe this is just more my speed.

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Karl
    I've been doing site work for probably 6 or 8 yrs. Even if I was starting out from scratch I'd ( personally ) not want to deal with anything less than Dreamweaver 4. ( Version 3 is OK also )
    If you could get a good deal on that somewhere, maybe eBay, I'd highly recommend it as an HTML tool. ( see below for ftp )
    However, "Coffee Cup" has a free version. I messed with it once quite a few yrs. ago and / but ... it was nearly as annoying as Front Page. I suppose one could get used to "Coffee Cup" and get good results.
    There might be other free WYSIWYG HTML editors out there.
    Google is your friend!

    "WS_FTP" is a rock solid tank of an FTP program and I believe you can still find a free version.

    For hosting I use www.webhost4life.com and so do about 8 of my clients.
    Once you get past the initial configuration ( actually getting the emails ... I think their administration has moved to Asian outsourcing ) it's a breeze.

    For a domain registrar I use www.register.com Their control panel is very easy to use and even though they're $35.00 / yr. ( I'm sure you could find someone cheaper ) It's worth it to me to have the fast and reliable phone support and user control panel.
    There is a question below i hope you can answer. I have asked this to a half a dozen different IT specializing lawyers and they for some reason refuse to answer this question. Which makes me think, "hmmm..."

    When you pay this service or some other service like it, are you actually paying a middleman who is hijacking the trademark or copyright of your new domain name, and charging you for something that if you knew how, you could have registererd yourself and own the rights to the domain name yourself?

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    If you do plan on switching to a mac, each mac comes with a FREE and extremely intuitive website building software called "iweb." I HIGHLY recommend iweb as its dead simple to use and produces AMAZING results! Here is an example of a family business my father started using only iweb and photoshop.

    http://www.noblepirate.com/Home.html

    As for a "player," quicktime works fine. You can also take the time to learn Flash, which has its own player built in as well, but I hear its not the easiest program to learn.

    I seriously would take a trip to your local apple store and play around with iweb on their demo machines. Trust me, within 5min you will be hooked!!

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    Quote Originally Posted by Leaf
    There is a question below i hope you can answer. I have asked this to a half a dozen different IT specializing lawyers and they for some reason refuse to answer this question. Which makes me think, "hmmm..."

    When you pay this service or some other service like it, are you actually paying a middleman who is hijacking the trademark or copyright of your new domain name, and if you knew how you could have registererd yourself and own the rights to the domain name yourself?
    I think it depends on the company you use as a registrar. I'm sure there are some out there that are just renting you then name and they actually own it, but I happen to know for sure that I own mine, to the point that I can transfer the registration to a different registrar.

    Yea. I know the whole thing still reeks of buzzards and carrion crows ... and we should be able to do it ourselves, going directly to the source ... i.e. if the source was actually willing to deal with the public without the "secret hand shake" of the middle man.

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    Quote Originally Posted by JT3_Jon
    If you do plan on switching to a mac, each mac comes with a FREE and extremely intuitive website building software called "iweb." I HIGHLY recommend iweb as its dead simple to use and produces AMAZING results! Here is an example of a family business my father started using only iweb and photoshop.

    http://www.noblepirate.com/Home.html

    As for a "player," quicktime works fine. You can also take the time to learn Flash, which has its own player built in as well, but I hear its not the easiest program to learn.

    I seriously would take a trip to your local apple store and play around with iweb on their demo machines. Trust me, within 5min you will be hooked!!
    If he's using photoshop he'd probably get a lot more speed of loading of his site by optimizing his images and using .jpg instead of .png.
    Jump the .png files to Image Ready and then optimize them as .jpg and you'll probably trim a lot of fat off the site. You'll never "see" the difference in the quality of the images, but the file sizes will be notably smaller and the site will load a lot faster.

    It looks nice, but as it sits now, it loads up really slow and feels really glitchy.
    Most likely because of the image files.

    Quick Time is probably great on a MAC, but in my opinion it sucks big time on a PC.

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    Re: OT: Need a website

    Hi Eric,

    I was considering similar issues when it came down to my own website.

    My choice is: www.ezgenerator.com

    - easy to setup
    - a bunch of templates to choose from
    - easy to customize templates
    - very good support in case of problems
    - a lof of free online-tutorials
    - covers all important features that current websites should include (anyway you need a server that supports PHP)
    - costs 130 USD (I think that´s a very good price)

    Best

    Schmandie

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    I would second the ezgenerator recommendation

    I've used it on 3 of my own sites so far (www.stevehoughton.com with links to the other two from there) and its excellent.

    There are thousands of templates - you pick one you like and go with it. THen you can cusomize that look by putting in your own graphics and you're done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schmandie
    Hi Eric,

    I was considering similar issues when it came down to my own website.

    My choice is: www.ezgenerator.com

    - easy to setup
    - a bunch of templates to choose from
    - easy to customize templates
    - very good support in case of problems
    - a lof of free online-tutorials
    - covers all important features that current websites should include (anyway you need a server that supports PHP)
    - costs 130 USD (I think that´s a very good price)

    Best

    Schmandie

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