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    dbl tongue vs.single tongue

    can someone explain the physical difference between single and double tongue ? I think the flute player moves both lips on "flatter tongue" or alternatively rolls the note on a spoken "rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr".

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    Re: dbl tongue vs.single tongue

    Quote Originally Posted by HorNet505
    can someone explain the physical difference between single and double tongue ? I think the flute player moves both lips on "flatter tongue" or alternatively rolls the note on a spoken "rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr".
    Hi...
    This from a low brass player, but applies to all brass, and to WW, though double-and triple tonguing are more common on brass.

    A single tongue is a stroke of the mid-tongue against the top teeth, as if you were pronouncing T-T-T-T-T-T or D-D-D-D-D-D.

    A good brass player can single-tougue sixteenths up to quarter=120~132 or so, give or take. An amateur or high school brass player can do sixteenths at quarter=88~100 or so.

    Double-tonguing produces notes by forth-and back-motion of the tongue, as if pronouncing T-K-T-K-T-K or D-G-D-G-D-G. The trick is to make sure that the backstroke (K or G) is as clear as the main stroke (T or D).

    Triple tonguing produces notes by forth-, forth- and back-motion of the tongue, as if pronouncing T-T-K-T-T-K or D-D-G-D-D-G. Same comment applies about the backstroke.

    Fluttertongue is produced by trilling the tongue, as if trilling an rrrrrrrrrrrrr. It is more random--less measured--than either a double- or triple-tongue, so it's more of an effect.

    So the *lips* don't come into play on this--it all happens "behind the lips!"
    Hope this helps...
    Jim
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    Indianapolis Brass Choir
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    Re: dbl tongue vs.single tongue

    yes this helps I thank you much

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