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    Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster" ***UPDATED*** AGAIN!

    OK, i've updated this to incorporate some of your excellent suggestions -- still working, but it's quite improved, I hope.....

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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    I don't know what to say that would be harsh. I found this very delightful and very accessible. Good luck in getting it played.
    Trent P. McDonald

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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    Karen,

    A suggested punch list:

    I'd re-examine tempi in this (in the first section, especially).
    A conductor will naturally take it where he or she wants
    in that regard; but something isn't hitting me right in the
    early section of the piece. Too static, maybe?

    Articulations. Might be too much reverb, but, again the
    first (and last) sections, seem to want to be more clearly
    articulated. Those lines are looking for more explicitly
    defined rhythmic emphasis, to me.

    And a general impression: It wouldn't hurt to take a
    breath a little more often. Moments of rest and space
    (what you don't say) define a piece just as importantly
    as the action does.

    That's about as tough as I can get... lol. It's a delightful
    frolic, with a doff of the cap to Strauss' Till Eulenspiegel's,
    which I think would be a fine choice for the venue your
    conductor describes.

    My best,



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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    I enjoyed it karen. To me it sounds assessable for the general classical music listener.

    I wonder if it takes off too quickly which can leave the listener behind as they try to catch the train.

    I liked the over all feel of it with it's playful mood.


    Phil

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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    Well, it is very accessible - no problem there! The middle section is very lovely - but I'm not sure if it fits with the title, or overall affect of the piece. I may just be thinking too much about the whole "trickster" thing...It also struck me that the return of the opening theme might be somehow different or transformed; after going through that lyrical section, perhaps it emerges changed?

    Good luck!. It's great that a conductor is willing to look at your score, and give you serious consideration. That's a compliment, right there. Although, having your work programmed would be even better...
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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    I fully agree with etLux. More articulations and some breath rests. Look at the flutes and other woodwinds. You can make a lot of articulations there, just by inserting some staccato's (also shortening the sample length). This articulation stuff can be applied to some of the violin passages as well. Altering from staccato to more legato can be an improvement.

    The rest..... is just wonderful music. Good luck with this, you deserve it.

    Raymond

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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    Thanks everyone, for all this honest feedback! Much appreciated. I think, as Dave suggested, I need to back off the reverb, because I do have alot of articulation markings, but they get lost. (I did back it off the first time you suggested it Dave, but not enough it seems!)

    Yes, I am not sure if the middle section fits with the Trickster idea, but i think i've leave it and see what happens. i toyed with the idea of renaming the piece, too...

    the pace is a little much, isn't it? i did try to overlap winds in such a way as to sound "continuous" while still providing breaks here and there, but will look at that again. (one gets spoiled by computers that don't need to breathe!)

    Thanks again for all the good input; it's invaluable.

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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    Karen:
    I'm glad I'm only putting in "two cents worth" of my thoughts, as everyone has substantially covered the suggestions I would have made, especially about some well placed staccatto markings to thin it out a bit. I liken it to a master water color artist that will "let the paper show through."
    It is, as usual, a very musical, very accessible and very well orchestrated piece. I found myself thinking of a cross between Red Skelton's Freddie the Free Loader and a Pagliacci type character, or as the pop song states, "I'm laughing on the outside but crying on the inside." Your "Trickster" has two distinct sides to his character. I like the middle section so maybe just a little more first section and a little more extended last section would add a more satisfying balance.
    It's always a pleasure to listen to your works.

    sos

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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    Thanks everyone. Steve, yes, i will probably add a bit to the end. I do like the dual nature of the piece to be honest. the "trickster" archetype isn't predictable anyway!
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    Re: Scherzo 1 for Chamber Orchestra "The Trickster"

    updated -- started tempo real slow and then speeds up to almost double. i like that effect - playful. backed off the reverb still more so you can hear articulations. on the recap ending, added some new stuff. it makes me chuckle.... see what you think....

    thanks for all the great suggestions and help!
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