• Register
  • Help
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Topic: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

Share/Bookmark
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    314

    Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Hi All,

    This is some of the Incidental Music I wrote for Moliere's 'The Doctor in Spite of Himself'.

    I had some problems with vibrations coming from the lower registers of the Clarinet and Bassoon I. I ended up using Bassoon II for most of it.

    I have difficulty in deciding what overall level to use. I boosted my original recording of this piece by 3 db. Is there any criterion one can use to determine what level to leave a recording at, since every setup sounds different ?

    I hope you like it.

    http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Showband.asp?id=12750

    Regards,

    Jack

  2. #2

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Hi Jack,

    This is just masterfully composed music. I loved it! You obviously have a very knowledgeable grasp of idiomatic considerations for this genre, and your creativity is just a sheer pleasure to listen to.

    I hesitate to offer any technical advice on your levels, other than to say I always check and adjust my volume in an audio program (I use Sony SoundForge). That seems to work for me. I didn't, however, notice any level problems in this. Sounded great!

    Thanks for this!

    Danny

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    314

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Thanks very much, Danny. I particularly appreciate your comments, because I was very impressed with your work, particularly the piece you posted recently. The composition, the orchestration and the rendering were all beautifully done.

    Best regards,

    Jack

  4. #4

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Jack, expertly done theatric accompaniment in these;
    well built and handled with a modest ensemble. The
    rendering, too -- quite good (though maybe just a tad
    more room would be nice -- but I always say that... lol).

    I didn't notice any level difficulties in this (no over-
    modulation; adequate level; etc.). As for thumb rules
    on that, in general you just want to avoid setting too
    high [distortion]; or setting too low [hard to hear].
    In multiple movements, of course, there's the added
    concern that you do want to have the individual
    movements at the proper relative levels to each other.

    Many audio editors (Audition, which I use, for instance)
    have an automatic feature you can use to set for
    optimal level, too.

    Can't say I've run into "vibration problems" with the
    low registers of any of the clarinets or bassoons (which
    sounded quite good to me, in this) -- I wonder if that
    might be diaphragm rattle in your speakers or headphones?

    Best,


    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

  5. #5

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Nice, Jack! - As you'd probably be able to predict, I always perk up when I see someone's written something for theatre.

    Oh yes, I can see this working on stage for Moliere really nicely. Touches of period flavor, some modern humor intelligently inserted, and some just plain wonderful orchestration throughout.

    I love this, Jack. Really nice work!

    I'd say more reverb would be good. I think you might have kept it drier since it's to be played in a theatre which will have its own natural reverb. I've found that recorded tracks still sound best coming out of speakers in a theatre with more environment effect (reverb) than this.

    I think David Et Lux could have something there when he suggested that the virbrational problems you had with the lower woodwinds could be due to sympathetic vibrations rattling your headphone or speaker diaphragms.

    Otherwise, if you're finding some lower frequencies offending, that's what EQ is for. Even a general negative shelfing of all the lower freqs under 100 can instantly help with problems like that.

    Great work - Thanks!

    Randy B.

  6. #6

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Jack

    This is some very impressive music here.

    Well done


    Ron

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    314

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Hi David,

    Thanks very much for listening and commenting.

    My question regarding level does not refer to distortion, clipping etc. I was referring to levels *within* the acceptable range. If I do something for large orchestra, and there are tutti sections which are fortissimo, I expect the level will pretty much reach the maximum allowable at that point. However, with a Woodwind Quintet, even the loudest possible sound probably won't land anywhere near the maximum allowable amplitude. Some pieces I hear using my headphones sound just right, others, though not distorted, sound too loud. My own stuff usually sounds too soft on my speakers. I realize every piece of equipment is different (quality, power etc.), and all you have to do is adjust the volume control, but I figure there must be some kind of a standard for recording. I added 3 db to this woodwind quintet, and then I had second thoughts, but I think I'll just leave it. (Am I making any sense ?)

    With regard to the 'vibration' I detected in the low registers of Bassoon I and Clarinet, maybe a better description of it would be a buzzing sound, which I don't think I can eliminate by lowering the master volume. Again, maybe I'm nuts, but I thought Bassoon II worked better in this regard (the first 2 pieces use Bassoon II and the third piece uses Bassoon I. With the clarinet, there were very few spots where this seemed to be a problem, so I just left it.

    Best Regards,

    Jack

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Penfield (Rochester), NY
    Posts
    1,719

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    Jack,

    This is a wonderful work, catchey, occasionally almost bizzare for brief moments. Well written and produced utilizing the GPO library nicely. Thanks for sharing it here.

    Gary

    www.garybricault.com

  9. #9
    Senior Member fastlane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Shelton, Washington State
    Posts
    3,022

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    You used the wood wind quintet very effectively here. Great music.

    I see you use a midi program that you wrote. I use a sequencer for the Mac that is the work of and is supported by one developer and a friend in New Zealand.


    Phil

  10. #10

    Re: Incidental Music....Woodwind Quintet

    This is fantastically composed music. I enjoy the exciting changes and the beautiful harmonies. I'm not sure how you rendered this, but if I could make one suggestion : the legato seems to be missing, perhaps more flowing legato would make it sound more natural. Thank you for this lovely piece.
    Kind Regards

    Louis Dekker
    My Music Site

    Pour être grand, il faut avoir été petit.

Go Back to forum
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •