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    advice wanted

    Hello,

    I'm want to buy some kind of sequencer/notation program but am unsure
    which. Can anybody advise me - here are my requirements:

    0) Must run on a mac
    1) Must sound good (like Garritan PO)
    2) I want score entry/output
    3) Data entry through midi keyboard
    4) Import/export midi files

    I saw the demo for NOTATION 2.0 it looked very good - is this
    as good as it seems - are other programs comparable?


    Thanks

    /Joe

    5) an extra - possible to remote control the program through a network
    interface (something like OSC)

  2. #2

    Re: advice wanted

    Hi Joe:
    The top two notation products are Finale (make music) and Sibelius. Of the two Sib. may be an easier pgm to learn. However, both are deep programs that require a lot of work to learn how to utilize effectively. Both run on MAC.

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    Re: advice wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by joearms View Post
    Hello,

    I'm want to buy some kind of sequencer/notation program but am unsure
    which. Can anybody advise me - here are my requirements:

    0) Must run on a mac
    1) Must sound good (like Garritan PO)
    2) I want score entry/output
    3) Data entry through midi keyboard
    4) Import/export midi files

    I saw the demo for NOTATION 2.0 it looked very good - is this
    as good as it seems - are other programs comparable?


    Thanks

    /Joe

    5) an extra - possible to remote control the program through a network
    interface (something like OSC)
    Joe~
    Please remember that a notation program's first job is notation. No notation program will "sound good" without a great deal of massaging. Finale's "Human Playback" is ahead of Sibelius IMHO in that aspect.
    Notation programs only send instructions to a sound source. So "sounding good" is not necessarily inherent to the notation program. Both Fin and Sib come with subsets of Garritan Libraries. AS OF THIS WRITING, Finale is compatible only with VSTs from Native Instruments, but Sibelius can house any VST.
    Your playback will be enhanced:
    a. by lots of MIDI manipulation and
    b. by acquiring good sound libraries and learning how to use them

    You are referring to NOTION 2.0. It comes with a lot of good sounds, but requires expensive addons to get complete soundsets. It does the best job of tying notation to playback, but does not have all the notation capability of Fin or Sib. If you are a seasoned MIDI user, you will see vestiges of the old MusicPrinter Plus notation.

    I have used all three; if you want more info, PM me.

    Jim W.
    Jim Williams
    Professor of Capitalism
    N9EJR
    Indianapolis Brass Choir
    All Your Bass Sus&Short Are Belong to Us.

  4. #4

    Re: advice wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by joearms
    ....
    3) Data entry through midi keyboard
    ....
    5) an extra - possible to remote control the program through a network
    interface (something like OSC)
    I like NOTION — for what it is — but it's at a rather primitive stage of development in some ways. MIDI input and external control are two areas where I wouldn't recommend it. Its playback is the best I've encountered in a purely notation program, at least in the sense of first-off playback without lots of massaging. But unlike Sibelius, for instance, there is very little massaging you can do in NOTION — tempo tapping and refinement of dynamics is about it. Also, its proprietary samples are limited to symphonic music, solo strings and some (very limited) jazz sounds. This will not be true forever, but right now other programs which can drive third party sound libraries might be a better bet, depending on what kind of music you want it for.

    Score output is acceptable in NOTION but does not come near the standards you can achieve with Sibelius or Finale.

    I'm not knocking NOTION — it's very easy to learn, simple to use, playback is really simple and effective, and you don't need a super-computer to run it — but it may not be right for you.

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