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    Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    A certain developer "...recorded all of the legato samples up to a major 9th" in their brass library, to achieve a more natural legato.

    What does it mean to record all of the legato samples? and is this really the best way to achieve a natural legato?

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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    Quote Originally Posted by mojamusic View Post
    A certain developer "...recorded all of the legato samples up to a major 9th" in their brass library, to achieve a more natural legato.

    What does it mean to record all of the legato samples? and is this really the best way to achieve a natural legato?
    Say you begin with A'' on an instrument.
    1.01 - You record the player playing A''-Bb''.
    1.02 - You record the transition A''-B''.
    1.03 - and so on
    ...
    1.20 - You record the transition A''-G#''.
    1.21 - You record the transition A''-G''.
    1.22 - and so on

    2. You repeat these steps for any beginning note of the instrument

    3. You cut out just the transition phase of all the samples.

    4. You write a script or program your sample player in such a way that every time when a legato is played, such a short transition sample is faded in and out between the actual legato notes.

    5. Eventually you repeat all these steps recording portamento instead of legato as an additional option.

    Something along these lines. A crazy amount of work, but the result can be very effective.


    Hannes
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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    ... and don`t forget that all the recordings are tempo-based!

    Gunther
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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    Wow. That's a ton of work. I imagine the "transition" is so short that it would be so tedious to do this.

    Thanks Hannes

    Is it necessary or worth it when K2 scripts legato script are so effective?

    More specifically, will it make much difference in the end?

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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    Quote Originally Posted by mojamusic View Post
    Wow. That sounds a ton of work. I imagine the the "transition" is so short that it would be so tedious to do this.

    Thanks Hannes

    Is it necessary or worth it when K2 scripts legato script are so effective?

    More specifically, will it make much difference in the end?
    One thing the legato script can not reproduce is the tone a real legato produce.
    And portamento. At least i haven't hear any good portamento done by script.

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    Thumbs up Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    recording a real slur is always going to yield the most realistic legato. That's why no one can touch VSL in my humble opinion. I have tons of libs and like all of them for different things but whenever I'm in need of a legato brass or woodwind, I turn to Vienna SE. Period.

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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    Westgate has some libs that stack up well against VSL. They also use sampled legato.

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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    Quote Originally Posted by geronimo001 View Post
    One thing the legato script can not reproduce is the tone a real legato produce.
    And portamento. At least i haven't hear any good portamento done by script.
    Proper use of the PitchBend data gives better portamento than most scripts anyway. imho.
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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    Quote Originally Posted by JonFairhurst View Post
    Westgate has some libs that stack up well against VSL. They also use sampled legato.
    Jon - does that include the French Horn?

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    Re: Question for developers: Legato Transitions

    Are there any "sample modeling" libraries that produce a result that comes close to the sound of true portamento?

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