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    Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?

    The GPO solo strings were, I believe, the first ever available in an affordable orchestral program which allowed both section sounds, or individually built ensembles, from duet, trio, quartet onwards. Further, they were the first to be capable of use directly from notation. It is also true, however, that the solo strings were comparatively thinly sampled. Some said, with justice, that the advantages of the technique of producing seemless dynamic changes by cross fading samples with the mod wheel, also produced a synthetic tinge to the sound. The biggest disadvantage was that the vibrato was integral to the sample and could not be varied or dispensed with in any circumstances. The Strad was a giant leap forward because it produced a densely sampled instrument with complete control of all aspects of tone, including portamento and vibrato. The selling point was that it was optimised for live play on a keyboard. Fortunately, for those who do not use midi-controllers, every aspect of tone could also be manipulated in a sequencer (or notation programme like OV4). A minor nuisance (but still a nuisance) was that the default articulations optimised for real time keyboard playing sounded too aggressive when applied to notation. Meticulous edits however solve the problem. The Gofriller resolved many of these irritations and also allowed a degree of tone differentiation reflecting that of a note played in different positions on different strings. Basically it is an outstanding program in every respect. The hope of some (many?) Strad users was that some of the Gofriller progress would be made available as an upgrade to the Strad, and also, of course, applied to the promised completion of the series with a viola, alternative violin, and double bass. For reasons that have not be satisfactorily explained, the series has been ditched and better GPO solo strings promised in a future development. Time will tell. But in the meantime, if you do manage to get hold of a Strad or Gofriller from secondary retailers, my advice would be to go buy quickly. It is difficult to see how what the Strad and Gofriller achieved could be readily improved upon within a cross-fading sample approach, remembering that each in size equates to size of the entire GPO sample library including piano, wind, percussion and organ. It is easy to imagine how the promised new set could turn out to be second best by a long chalk. The world of sample library programming is volatile and technology moves rapidly. But I suspect the Strad and the Gofriller could soon become collector's pieces, and perhaps aready are.

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    Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?

    Are we allowed to sell our Stad and Cello to others. I will sell mine, if it is legal.

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    Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab53 View Post
    Are we allowed to sell our Stad and Cello to others. I will sell mine, if it is legal.
    if you haven't sell yours, I'll be more than willing to pay

    Cheers,

    Sasha

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    Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?

    I saw a video of a guy playing the Stradivari violin on a keyboard and it sounded great. Then I was disappointed to see that it was no longer available.

    I'm curious if the Personal Orchestra's Stradivari violin is of the same quality as the one that was sold individually? If not then is there another competing product that would be comparable? I am working on a piano & violin composition and I'd like to get a good violin.

    Thanks

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    Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?

    Quote Originally Posted by cunparis View Post
    I'm curious if the Personal Orchestra's Stradivari violin is of the same quality as the one that was sold individually? If not then is there another competing product that would be comparable? I am working on a piano & violin composition and I'd like to get a good violin.
    The fact that the Garritan Solo Stradivarius Violin was priced higher than the entire Garritan Personal Orchestra should give you some insight into that question.

    Basically, GSSV gave you complete control over vibrato rate and depth, as well as a means of simulating a wide variety of bowstrokes via keyswitches. This is not possible with the GPO strad.

    Gary and Co. have been working on a new version of Garritan Orchestral Strings (a seperate product from GPO) which will include a complete selection of solo string instruments. No word yet on when it will be released. If you can't wait, I'd suggest looking at Vienna Instruments, or perhaps XSample.
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    [Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?] So how can I activate it?

    I recently came across a buddy's DAW comp hard drive that he was getting rid of and asked if I wanted anything from it. Most of the plugs and whatnot were old and out-dated, but he did have Garritan Stradivari 2.0 and being a satisfied GPO 4 user, I checked it out. Pretty incredible! I really like the expressiveness of the controls and the Kontakt compatibility is great. So I pulled the GSS 2 from the drive, tossed it, and installed it on my computer. Figuring I had salvaged a nice VST from being scrapped, I've run into a problem. I can't activate it now on my system without an activation code in Kontakt and my friend no longer has any paperwork or packaging related to help me out. I can't seem to find any indication of it in the files either, unless I'm missing something. Garritan no longer supports it, and Native isn't much help either. Any suggestions as to what I can do here? I'm at a bit of a stalemate.

    Thanks ahead of time to anyone who can help.

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    Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?

    nigh on three years now since the extinction of the Gofriller and Strad.

    so this elusive "soon", when is it likely to occur? generally speaking "soon" refers to a time span that is short. My concern at this point is that Garriten, through this incessant imposed wait, will end up losing customers as they move to alternate libraries. The Garritan name will also end up taking a beating. Many of those alternate libraries are currently far less expensive than they were 3 years ago.

    Most of the recent string library releases are NOT notation software compatible.
    This has always been a strong selling point for Garritan products.
    Getting suggestions from people on this very forum to "not wait" and "try other companies' products" is also not a good sign.

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    Re: Why Stradivari and Gofriller are no longer available?

    From what I understand, one of the people responsible for the violin & cello libraries left Garritan and started a new company and this is why there is no replacement. I believe the new company, which I will not name here, is working on string instruments but it wasn't their priority for some reason.

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