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    Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    Hi everyone,
    my apologies for being so scarce lately.

    The following is a work in progress. mv 2 in particular is very rough, just mostly chords and the chorus parts. 1 and 3 are a little more developed -- 3 has various versions of possible beginnings of endings tacked onto one another-- because it is not finished yet.

    A note about the mood of this piece: for me, it evokes not only reverence and tenderness, but also the angst and confusion, and almost desperation that some of us find regarding faith and what it means in a modern world. At least, that is what I am trying for, and what I felt writing it.

    The piano part for mv 3 is very difficult -- I am not sure if it is playable at some points (I don't play beyond the "Sonata for Hunt-and-Peck Piano" ). If anyone who does play advanced sort of music would like to take a look at the score and advise me, I'd be grateful. Ideally, this work should be re-scored for orchestra, I think; but for practical reasons, I am doing it in piano for now (it's harder to get a chorus and orchestra together to perform a piece.)

    As always, thanks for listening.

    And congrats again Danny -- both for the listening room award and also for your kindness in giving it away! You are an inspiration

    Karen

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    Gloria

    mv 1 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6323760
    mv 2 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6329485
    mv 3 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6329492

    Words to the Gloria Mass and how I am (tentatively) planning to break them into movements:

    mv 1 Gloria in excelsis Deo. “Glory to God in the Highest”

    mv 2 Et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis. “And peace on earth, goodwill toward men”

    mv 3 Laudamus te. Benedicimus te. Adoramus te. Glorificamus te.
    “We praise thee; we bless thee; we adore thee; we glorify thee”

    mv 4 Gratias agimus tibi propter magnam gloriam tuam.

    mv 5 Domine Deus, Rex caelestis, Deus Pater omnipotens.
    Domine Fili unigenite, Jesu Christe.

    mv 6 Domine Deus, Agnus Dei, Filius Patris,
    Qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
    Qui tollis peccata mundi, suscipe deprecationem nostram.
    Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris, miserere nobis.
    Quoniam tu solus Sanctus.
    Tu solus Dominus.
    Tu solus Altissimus,
    Jesu Christe.

    mv 7 Cum Sancto Spiritu in gloria Dei Patris.
    Amen.
    _____________________
    Listen at: www.soundclick.com/kepeaceusa
    Scores at: http://stores.lulu.com/ke_peace

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    Karen:
    Magnificent. Very engaging and moving, almost to the point of emotional exhaustion. I think the chorus & piano is a very viable solution and would, as you know, invite a lot more performances. As it is now, even just the piano is a little overpowering at times, but a volume control switch would fix that.
    Are you aware of the sudden stop in mvmt. 2 and a rather abrupt ending of movt. 3?
    What a gift you have.

    Steve

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    Quote Originally Posted by sosmus View Post
    Karen:
    Magnificent. Very engaging and moving, almost to the point of emotional exhaustion. I think the chorus & piano is a very viable solution and would, as you know, invite a lot more performances. As it is now, even just the piano is a little overpowering at times, but a volume control switch would fix that.
    Are you aware of the sudden stop in mvmt. 2 and a rather abrupt ending of movt. 3?
    What a gift you have.

    Steve
    Hi Steve, thanks so much, as always, for your kind comments. Yes, I know about the eruption of abruption -- none of these is finished yet. But I like to get a little feedback once I have enough so people can have an idea where I am going. And the almost exhaustion -- that is, in a way part of the "desperation" I mentioned above -- which I wanted to bring out in this piece.... And you are right about the piano, of course -- I'll see to that.

    Thanks again, Steve,
    much obliged,
    Karen
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    Scores at: http://stores.lulu.com/ke_peace

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    Excellent progress on this, Karen! This is
    promising to be among your best choral
    works, yet. The first movement, that's
    already maturing nicely... and I'll guarantee
    you audiences are going to love it.

    A few technical thoughts:

    On the piano, don't be afraid to challenge
    the player a little more. Most of the
    writing in the first and second movements
    is chorale-like, fairly easy; there'd be
    little difficulty at all for any competent
    pianist.

    The third movement -- what a blast! --
    love the drive and rip in that... but again,
    that piano part, if energetic and much
    more demanding than the writing in the
    earlier two movements -- it's still well
    written for the hand and a good pianist
    can handle it with adequate rehearsal.

    In rendering (first two movements), I
    would suggest not placing the piano far
    left. A live venue is one thing -- a
    rendering is a whole 'nother matter.
    Stick it smack dab in the middle or
    slightly left thereof, and it will blend in
    with the voices properly.

    Now go finish that third movement. I want
    to hear what you do with the ending... lol!

    My best,



    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    This is a great basis from which to launch Karen.

    I am not sure it needs an orchestral direction. I would love to hear it evolve and see what the ultimate version sounds like with a real choir!

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    Hi Karen,

    It's a little late at night, so I've only listened to the first movement so far (this "Daylight Savings Time" thing is kicking my rear today... it was more like Daylight Snoozin' Time for me!)...

    I think this is magnificent! I guess David S. is probably right in saying that the piano part is maybe somewhat simplistic (in other words, it would take me four or five years of intense practice to play it ), but I think it fits the mood and feel of the movement, and the sparseness of it creates just the right amount of tension and anticipation. It's nice to hear you taking some harmonic "adventures" (taking risks!!) which are paying of big-time. What I'm sensing is a much stronger projection of confidence in your writing. It commands attention and has tremendous weight and strength. I just love the choral harmonies (we'll all celebrate when the Garritan choir library is finished!) -- reverent and just slightly disturbing at the same time.

    I'm looking forward to listening to the next movements... from what I've read in the other comments so far, I'm sure I'm going to be hearing even more great stuff!

    Danny

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    Quote Originally Posted by KE Peace View Post
    Hi everyone,
    my apologies for being so scarce lately.

    The following is a work in progress. mv 2 in particular is very rough, just mostly chords and the chorus parts. 1 and 3 are a little more developed -- 3 has various versions of possible beginnings of endings tacked onto one another-- because it is not finished yet.

    A note about the mood of this piece: for me, it evokes not only reverence and tenderness, but also the angst and confusion, and almost desperation that some of us find regarding faith and what it means in a modern world. At least, that is what I am trying for, and what I felt writing it.

    The piano part for mv 3 is very difficult -- I am not sure if it is playable at some points (I don't play beyond the "Sonata for Hunt-and-Peck Piano" ). If anyone who does play advanced sort of music would like to take a look at the score and advise me, I'd be grateful. Ideally, this work should be re-scored for orchestra, I think; but for practical reasons, I am doing it in piano for now (it's harder to get a chorus and orchestra together to perform a piece.)

    As always, thanks for listening.

    And congrats again Danny -- both for the listening room award and also for your kindness in giving it away! You are an inspiration

    Karen

    -----------------------------------------------

    Gloria

    mv 1 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6323760
    mv 2 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6329485
    mv 3 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6329492

    Words to the Gloria Mass and how I am (tentatively) planning to break them into movements:

    mv 1 Gloria in excelsis Deo. “Glory to God in the Highest”

    mv 2 Et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis. “And peace on earth, goodwill toward men”

    mv 3 Laudamus te. Benedicimus te. Adoramus te. Glorificamus te.
    “We praise thee; we bless thee; we adore thee; we glorify thee”

    mv 4 Gratias agimus tibi propter magnam gloriam tuam.

    mv 5 Domine Deus, Rex caelestis, Deus Pater omnipotens.
    Domine Fili unigenite, Jesu Christe.

    mv 6 Domine Deus, Agnus Dei, Filius Patris,
    Qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
    Qui tollis peccata mundi, suscipe deprecationem nostram.
    Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris, miserere nobis.
    Quoniam tu solus Sanctus.
    Tu solus Dominus.
    Tu solus Altissimus,
    Jesu Christe.

    mv 7 Cum Sancto Spiritu in gloria Dei Patris.
    Amen.
    Two new movements, not quite done, but done enough to listen to....
    mv 4 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6344451
    mv 6 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6348658
    _____________________
    Listen at: www.soundclick.com/kepeaceusa
    Scores at: http://stores.lulu.com/ke_peace

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    I enjoyed these even as unfinished choral pieces. It would be great to hear these sung by a good choir.

    I agree with David about the piano on the first and second mv. The choral work is flowing nicely and putting a little more "edge" into the piano would balance it. At least that is what my ear is telling me.

    I'm practicing with a choir and I wish we were singing this. We are singing older rock pop tunes. It's fun but lacks the emotional reward of good choral works.

    Keep up the good work!



    Phil

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    Re: Gloria Mass for Chorus and Piano (for now)

    Hi all,
    I have put the latest Gloria preview up on soundclick -- all 9 movements, at least in partial form. A single click plays them all, one after another. This thing has been possessing me of late... Feedback welcome. Food delivery welcome!

    http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6370285

    Thanks, as always, for listening.

    Karen
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    Scores at: http://stores.lulu.com/ke_peace

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