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    OT - American traditional instruments

    Hello everyone,
    I apologize, as this isn't specifically related to Garritan instruments, but I was wondering what you forum and sample library users recommend for a library with American traditional instruments. I can usually find something that works between the full version of GPO and Finale 2008's bundled Garritan instruments, but there are a few important instruments for bluegrass, such as the banjo and the mandolin, that I can't really substitute. I end up using general midi for those, which I suppose isn't bad, since I'm only doing mock ups, but it would be nice to have something that had sampled versions of these instruments. Are there any recommendations?

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    Re: OT - American traditional instruments

    Some Guitar libraries have these as "extras". Kind of pricey if you just want these instruments though.

    Check out Chris Hein Guitars http://www.chrishein.net/guitar/chg_productsite.htm
    and Acoustic Legends http://www.vir2.com/vir2/products/ac...shd/index.html

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    Front Porch Banjo is good. It's Giga, but I found it imported into Kontakt just fine.
    David

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    Trying Googling...

    VST mandolin
    VST banjo

    or, can your sequencer handle Soundfonts?

    soundfont mandolin
    soundfont banjo

    I just tried this and saw a number of hits that might help you. For example, here's a mandolin library (with a free demo):

    http://www.kvraudio.com/news/2155.html
    "An artist is someone who produces things that people don't need to have, but that he - for some reason - thinks it would be a good idea to give them."

    - Andy Warhol

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    Re: OT - American traditional instruments

    I hear the swinette is a good old american instrument.
    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

    http://reberclark.blogspot.com http://reberclark.bandcamp.com http://www.youtube.com/reberclark

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    The American mandolin is quite a different instrument than the Euro-Mid Eastern mandolin.

    It is tuned the same as a violin, and has a much woodier tone quality.

    The Gibson F5 and F9 series set the basic tone that all the others try to emulate.


    If you show up to a Bluegrass jam with a Gibson, only compliments are received. A poor player with a Gibson is preferred over a good player with something else.

    Surfing for mando samples makes me think I should sample mine and see if I can get it into KP. Is that possible? Is there a tutorial explaining the KP side of this?


    As a long time musician and technician, the recording side is not a problem, but I have little experience with Kontact Player.
    It's a Viking thing.

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    Re: OT - American traditional instruments

    Go to

    http://www.alexandermusic.com

    and then to the "Country" section of my music website.

    On many of my works there I use the Front Porch Banjo and the Front Porch Tuba.

    Regards,

    Larry
    Larry G. Alexander
    www.alexandermusic.com

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    Re: OT - American traditional instruments

    Quote Originally Posted by holderofthehorns View Post
    Surfing for mando samples makes me think I should sample mine and see if I can get it into KP. Is that possible? Is there a tutorial explaining the KP side of this?


    As a long time musician and technician, the recording side is not a problem, but I have little experience with Kontact Player.
    Making a sample library for the full Kontakt is really easy. A player instrument is a different matter. I imagine there's some kind of developer's kit, but then I believe the instrument finally needs to be coded by NI, who send you a disc of the installer. And, of course, a proportion of sales will go to NI in license fees.

    Unless you think you're going to sell millions, or there's some burning reason you don't want users to be able to access the samples, I would just go with a library. Of course this has the advantage that you can make libraries in several formats quite easily.
    David

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    Re: OT - American traditional instruments

    Thanks David,
    I hold no allusion that anyone will want it besides me. Maybe a few would.

    I just want a real live American Mando sample that I can use to midi-ize some bluegrass music. All the mando samples I've seen so far are Euro, which is fine if you're doing Italian or Greek Gypsie music or even some of the Slovic Romantic Classicals.

    Looking at the previous posts on this thread, the vendors offer Sample.mp3's of all their stuff except mando. Hmm...

    The one company that offers a sample listen is the Euro Mando.
    Sounds nice, but not what I'm after.

    I do have other samplers.
    Perhaps the Dimension Pro from Cake would fit the bill.
    It uses Wav samples and is organized with SFZ text files.
    Which will give me a heads up on the upcoming Aria sampler from GPO.

    Should be simple enough. I probably only need like 2 or 3 velocities, like MezzoPiano, MezzoForte and Fortissimo. About 4 seconds per note, per sample. 3 octaves chromatic and I'm done. 96 samples in all.

    Could probably do it in an afternoon or two. No royalties.

    Record Hammer-Ons as an entirely different instrument later.

    The more I think about it, yes, I believe I will.

    I'll report back here with the results and a listen.
    Thanks guys, for letting me think.

    Maybe I'll do banjo, too.
    Maybe Gary will do it for us, and all we'll have to do is pay for it? Gary?

    Either way, I will have the Americana strings.


    Eric Anderson
    It's a Viking thing.

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    And it's all Pizz no vibrato.
    Same with the banjo.
    It's a Viking thing.

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