KUIPER'S TROUSERS - Garritan Steinway & Mixed Ensemble (Sosnowski)

[LouisD]

David,

This is delightfully strange coming from you. I must admit that it does stretch my limited imagination ever so slightly. Thank you for letting us peek into this side of your brain.....

[rbowser-]

Hello, David - I've been looking forward to at least a partial return to the Forum, and this morning eagerly chose your piece as one to spend some time with.

AH yes, from the "Toot plunk and boom" school. Makes me want to hunch over in my chair in an uncomfortable but impressive looking knot while glaring with an intellectual intensity at a group of equally glaring and sweating musicians who manically try to unravel the scores in front of them--scores which probably consist of graphics and various doodles superimposed on the staves.

It could have been 1/4 the length, looping back on itself, it could have been twice as long, four times as long--It could have been 5 seconds long.

Whatever the length--It would always, of course, remain Deeply Profound.

Randy--(hunched over in an uncomfortable but impressive looking knot, languidly applauding Et Lux)

[etLux]

Hi Louis,

David,

This is delightfully strange coming from you.

I'll second that. At least the "strange" part... lol! I think
it's clear from my prior comments I'm not at all comfortable
in this odd musical land.

I do thank you for listening, though!

I must admit that it does stretch my limited imagination

Now, that comment I must protest! Louis, your are a man
of abundant creativity and ability... I look forward to every
piece of yours, and I hope to hear more from you soon!

ever so slightly. Thank you for letting us peek into this side of your brain.....

Scary place in there, sometimes, my friend! Thank you
again for spending time with this!

Always my best,



David
www.DavidSosnowski.com

[etLux]

Randy!

An unexpected pleasure, my friend. Thank you for taking
time with this.

And once again, my warmest congratulations on the premier
of Dorian. I wonder how many people fully realize that your
talent and drive have grandly succeeded in a nearly impossible
achievement!

Hello, David - I've been looking forward to at least a partial return to the Forum, and this morning eagerly chose your piece as one to spend some time with.

AH yes, from the "Toot plunk and boom" school. Makes me want to hunch over in my chair in an uncomfortable but impressive looking knot while glaring with an intellectual intensity at a group of equally glaring and sweating musicians who manically try to unravel the scores in front of them--scores which probably consist of graphics and various doodles superimposed on the staves.

It could have been 1/4 the length, looping back on itself, it could have been twice as long, four times as long--It could have been 5 seconds long.

Whatever the length--It would always, of course, remain Deeply Profound.

You know, Randy, I think the most succinct comment I can
make about this piece is:

The only profound thing about it is a profound lack of anything
profound within it.

I think that's what bothers me most about this kind of "music".

Randy--(hunched over in an uncomfortable but impressive looking knot, languidly applauding Et Lux)

Randy, my friend, would you be kind enough to slide over to
the left a little. I'd like to set down there beside you; but I
need a little more room to hunch over... rofl!

Always my best,



David
www.DavidSosnowski.com

[suspenlute]

This is interesting to listen to, despite the fact that I haven't the faintest idea what's going on. I have to admit the odd Kraftwerk-type sounds were a little distracting because, apart from them, I really could imagine this being performed (not that it necessarily would be, but I could imagine it. )

-Chris P.

[etLux]

Hi Chris,

This is interesting to listen to, despite the fact that I haven't the faintest idea what's going on.

That's alright, Chris, neither do I... lol. I think that the limited
resource set and the formula-driven randomly varied repetitions
of it give the illusion of some sense lurking within it. But listened
to critically, at least to me, it lacks the logic and flow and
direction that characterize well written real music.

I have to admit the odd Kraftwerk-type sounds were a little distracting because, apart from them, I really could imagine this being performed (not that it necessarily would be, but I could imagine it. )

Oh, technically, I'm sure it could be performed (though one might
find better things to spend time on). Scoring it, however, would
be some kind of monkey puzzle. That, and introducing the random
elements -- performers would need to be flipping coins or something
all through it... lol.

Thanks for spending some time with it, Chris!

My best,



David
www.DavidSosnowski.com

[suspenlute]

But listened
to critically, at least to me, it lacks the logic and flow and
direction that characterize well written real music.

To me, most "well written real music" is completely devoid of logic and flow and direction anyway so that should tell you something about the $.02 I pitch in around here. Maybe.

-Chris P.

[etLux]

To me, most "well written real music" is completely devoid of logic and flow and direction anyway so that should tell you something about the $.02 I pitch in around here. Maybe.

Oh, c'mon, Chris, I don't believe that... rofl. But I'll tell ya,
a lot of this "fringe" stuff strikes me about the same way;
so you've definitely got company!

My best,




David
www.DavidSosnowski.com

[lesotho72]

Certainly not my favorite type of music but somewhat interesting. I found the little space gun sounds a bit distracting. Liked the dying down at the end -- sounded like a tuba bellowing there at the end.
It has inspired me to experiment a bit more. Easy to throw this off as 'academic' music. But there are moments in those types of pieces where you hear a neat sound or figuration.
Have you written much of this (for lack of a better term) atonal music? Do you find it helps with your other more-tonal music?

Admittedely many of these pieces -- from Wuorinen to Elliot Carter to Christopher Wolfe (sat through a master class with him where he played his own piano pieces) sound quite similar to me. I feel obligated to listen to them only because other people say they are 'important' composers. Take what I can from them -- which isn't much. I do like much of Webern's music -- especially the isolated sounds and excellent orchestration

Think I'll go back and listen to your Discourse again!

[etLux]

Hi Daniel,

Certainly not my favorite type of music

Nor mine! But I do make a point of listening to all kinds
of music, especially genres I'm not fond of. Across years,
I find that music I was initially adverse to -- in many
cases, I have grown to deeply love.

but somewhat interesting. I found the little space gun sounds a bit distracting. Liked the dying down at the end -- sounded like a tuba bellowing there at the end.

Either that, or one of the players had too much
anchovy pizza.

It has inspired me to experiment a bit more. Easy to throw this off as 'academic' music. But there are moments in those types of pieces where you hear a neat sound or figuration.
Have you written much of this (for lack of a better term) atonal music? Do you find it helps with your other more-tonal music?

I very rarely "write" this sort of thing, almost never. But
as you point out, Daniel -- the merit of such experiments
is perhaps in that they expose new aspects of musical
vocabulary and techniques. I'll certainly cannibalize this
for parts... there are sonorities and rhythms in it that
are interesting to me.

Admittedely many of these pieces -- from Wuorinen to Elliot Carter to Christopher Wolfe (sat through a master class with him where he played his own piano pieces) sound quite similar to me. I feel obligated to listen to them only because other people say they are 'important' composers. Take what I can from them -- which isn't much. I do like much of Webern's music -- especially the isolated sounds and excellent orchestration

Absolutely...! Whether you like such a piece, or even under-
stand it -- I think there's always something you can take
away from listening that will expand your horizons!

Think I'll go back and listen to your Discourse again!

Thanks for the thoughtful comments, Daniel!

My best,



David
www.DavidSosnowski.com