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    (new version) The "Bigears trio" at the Cafe Insomnie

    Hello, I was inspired by the Gershwin piece Tom posted (excellent!) and I am still trying to nail the jazz trio sound. On this piece written by George Gershwin I have rendered some MIDI using the Authorized Steinway with the Under Lid perspective. I have recently acquired "The Bass" from Bardstown Audio, and it is now used on this piece. I am still learning the many tweaks necessary to coax the right sound from these samples. Drums are played through the EZdrummer plug-in.
    I did this one in Sonar, bounced the tracks to wav in realtime, converted to MP3 at 192 Kb/s.
    I'm very interested in your comments, tips, and criticisms on this piece. I hope this one is enjoyed. John (bigears)
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    Re: The "Bigears trio" at the Cafe Insomnie

    Quote Originally Posted by bigears View Post
    I'm very interested in your comments, tips, and criticisms on this piece. I hope this one is enjoyed. John (bigears)
    Comments: Really great sound.
    Tips: None
    Criticisms: None - except the bass is slightly light - maybe this system - don't know. Slight volume changes in the bass - but nothing of any consequence.

    I could listen to a whole album of this all day - but please don't ask me anything about jazz - have no idea of how it works.

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    John,

    Great playing; wonderful light swinging feel. Only criticism: For me, the drums are too loud. Sounds like I'm sitting closer to the drummer than the piano. Especially the ride cym and high hat...

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    John:

    Absolutely great playing. If this is out of your head, it is even
    more magnificent. I think your back procedure let some more
    talent in............lol

    I think the bass is really great, the balance fantastic, and, of
    course, the Steinway D awesome........Tag is great........

    BRAVO, John

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    Re: The "Bigears trio" at the Cafe Insomnie

    John, you've done it again - perfectly balanced trio ensemble with fully believable piano work; was this midi from the cd you took the other samples from?
    As far as I'm concerned you have got that trio sound nailed -Looking forward to hearing more.

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    Great flow. As was mentioned before, maybe the mix could benefit from a tweak here and there, but the foundation of the track is solid. I enjoyed this one a lot. Thanks for sharing it.
    Best regards,

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    Ok, now Eugene has me confused. Did you play that piano part or not?

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    John,

    I really enjoyed listening to this piece! I think you made an excellent choice in the upright — and I agree, that's such a tough sound to find!

    So was this a general midi file you had that you rendered, or did you play some/all of the parts in yourself? Either way, sounds great.

    My only critique would be that the drums sound a little bit "midi pattern", and not enough effect on them. Again, trying to get a computer to sound like a jazz drummer is like (insert simile here), so I know I'm asking for the near impossible. But the drums might sit a bit better in the mix if there was a bit more reverb on them.

    Keep this stuff coming. I really love hearing it!

    Tom

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    Re: The "Bigears trio" at the Cafe Insomnie

    Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions. I have examined the bass velocities and corrected them and replaced the MP3 with the edited version. Drums are a tough one for me to get right and I
    appreciate your tips and suggestions, and I will continue to work on this aspect.
    FYI, the foundation for this comes from a Jazz Piano folder in a MIDI collection I have. There is no information at all with the MIDI, if I had anyone to credit I certainly would. It is a great piano performance, and I have done very minimal tweaking there.
    I will continue to listen and learn from everyone and hopefully, these will get better. John (bigears)

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    John

    I didn't hear the first version just because I was studying for exams. But this version sounds great. Love the sound of that Steinway.

    Ron

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