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    Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    I'm working on a song where violins will play a long stretch of 16th note arpeggios of a pentatonic scale... like in Copland's 'Rodeo' or many 'Western' movies. It's a background, but is in focus enough that it needs to sound 'western' and not 'baroque'.

    I'm having trouble getting it to sound realistic and would like some suggestions. As I just said, instead of sounding like 'fiddles' with the notes flowing together with each string crossing, it sounds like Vivaldi on a player piano. I've tried various articulations (straight, stac, mart) and it just ain't happening.

    I have GOS, GPO and the built-ins for Kontakt2 and Kontakt3.

    Any general tips with the kit I have?

    THANKS!

    ---JC

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    I have the orchestral score for Hoedown - and the violin playing on that is scary - real playing that is.

    To be honest - I wouldn't think you could do it with samples from anywhere at this point - at least not in any way convincingly.

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    I cannot believe, with all the orchestral mockups people do that this hasn't been tried a zillion times. There's gotta be a way... that 'Hollywood Western' genre doesn't exist without the violins doing pentatonic chord ostinati.

    Anyone else?

    ---JC

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    Hm, an interesting question... .


    Can you perhaps pm me a short midi string piece from your composition, so I want to experiment. (germancomponist at metaphon.de)

    Gunther
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

    Listen to me, tuning my triangle http://www.box.net/shared/ae822u6r3i

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    GUNTHER: I can do. But if you simply play this in 'country' 16ths... it will give you the idea:

    144bpm

    C4-A3-G3-E3-
    G3-A3-G3-E3-
    G3-A3-G3-E3-
    G3-A3-G3-E4-

    Over and over and over...

    MODERATOR: I wish you had a better way of describing 'seniority'. I may have a certain no. of posts, but that in no way implies 'seniority'. There s.b. a 'quality' component to that. Seriously.

    ---JC

    Quote Originally Posted by germancomponist View Post
    Hm, an interesting question... .


    Can you perhaps pm me a short midi string piece from your composition, so I want to experiment. (germancomponist at metaphon.de)

    Gunther

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    WTF does -that- mean? Are you saying I'm being rude in some way? If so, how?

    ---JC

    Quote Originally Posted by jjloving View Post
    for the sake of raising stink again - you also "haven't made any friends".

    good place, some bad 'features'...

    sorry to butt in

    Jon

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    ---Anyone else?

    --JC

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    You mean something like this:
    http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/GoWestM.mp3

    By the way, you can go a lot faster than what's shown in this demo too...

    Kirk

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    Nice!

    ---JC

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    Re: Looking For Tips On 'Rodeo' Style Bowing

    Quote Originally Posted by KirkHunter View Post
    You mean something like this:
    http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/GoWestM.mp3

    By the way, you can go a lot faster than what's shown in this demo too...

    Kirk
    A very nice demo, Kirk!

    Gunther
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

    Listen to me, tuning my triangle http://www.box.net/shared/ae822u6r3i

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