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    Hi all,

    by the end of August, I have to draw up an orchestral programm from film music for my open air concerts next season. Any ideas or suggestions for soundtracks worth to consider? Can you also recommend some websites with MIDIs for reference? Finally, are there some volunteers interested in cooperation - i.e. working out particular arrangements and having them played by a real orchestra? Thanks for all suggestions!
    Petr Pololanik, M.A.
    Conductor, Orchestrator, Music Producer
    Capellen Music Production

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Okay, I'll give you one of my favorite pieces, and that's the theme to Jurrasic Park, by John Williams. I searched real quick and found this sample online. It's piano-only, but you asked for a sample, not the entire orchestral score.

    There's just something about this piece that really grabs my attention.

    Edit: I looked some more, and found this MIDI file. It uses standard MIDI voices, but appears to be a more complete scoring.

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Hi Petr,

    Well, first off, just about everything you might program is copyrighted, so there are potential issues with appropriating/arranging this material and attaching one's name to it for public performance.

    Secondly, the scores/parts for a few films are commercially available, either the actual scores or very nice arranged suites pulled from the films, especially musicals. For a fact, lots of John Williams' stuff is published, plus others like Aaron Copland and Erich Korngold can be located.

    Also, it might help if you could narrow down what you are seeking: how far back do you want to go; any particular period, e.g., 30's, 40's, ...90's, right now; any particular film genre, e.g., Western, Sci-Fi, Romance, Adventure, any particular composer(s), i.e., is a theme concert in any way; etc.?

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by HongKongCV
    Okay, I'll give you one of my favorite pieces, and that's the theme to Jurrasic Park, by John Williams.
    There's just something about this piece that really grabs my attention.
    Hi Petr and HongKongCV,
    just for grins, here is a link to an old post of mine where I did Jurassic Park with GPO, I started midi and computer stuff back in April of 2004 when I bought GPO, but it was fun listening to this after a long time.

    Dan

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Hmmm, good film music...I definitely agree that the theme from Jurassic Park is a good one, but here are some other ideas:

    Adventures on Earth (from ET) - John Williams
    Close Encounters Suite - Williams
    Star Wars (there are suites from all 6 films) - Williams
    Harry Potter Suite (films 1-3) - Williams
    Indiana Jones Suites (again, a suite per film) - Williams
    Gladiator Suite - Hans Zimmer
    Pirates of the Caribbean Suite - Klaus Badelt/Zimmer
    Back to the Future - Alan Silverstri
    Lord of the Rings Suite (one for each film) - Howard Shore
    North by Northwest - Bernard Herrmann
    Batman Suite - Danny Eflman
    The Godfather Suite - Nino Rota
    The Incredibles - Michael Giacchino

    There are, of course, hundreds of others I could suggest, but I'm fairly certain that published orchestral suites already exist for the majority of these, and a lot of other great film scores just aren't currently available.

    Midi files for all of these should be easy to find using Google.

    Hope this helps!! Good luck with the concert!

    -Ken

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Here is my all time favorite that I did on GPO in GarageBand, Band of Brothers Suite

    Others in my favorites category...

    Brainstorm - Michael's Gift to Karen
    The Champ - The Champ (brilliantly recreated by DPDAN)
    Dances with Wolves - The John Dunbar Theme
    Dune - Main Title & Leto's Theme
    Edward Scissorhands - Introduction (Titles)
    Empire of the Sun - Cadillac of the Skies
    Empire Strikes Back - The Imperial March
    The Family Man - Promise
    Hunt for Red October - Main Title
    Raiders of the Lost Ark - The Map Room Dawn
    Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - The Keeper of the Grail
    Lion King - Circle of Life (opening title)
    Mission - Gabriel's Oboe
    Narnia - Only the Beginning of the Adventure (ending theme)
    Pee Wee's Big Adventure - Clown Dream
    Saving Private Ryan - Hymn to the Fallen
    Schindler's List - Main Theme
    A Simple Twist of Fate - Main Theme
    Sophie's Choice - Love Theme
    The Untouchables - Al Capone
    Willow - Elora Danan
    Star Trek Voyager - Main Title
    Garritan on GarageBand '08 using Intel iMac with 1.5G RAM
    Listen to my collection here

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by DarwinKopp View Post
    Hi Petr,

    Well, first off, just about everything you might program is copyrighted, so there are potential issues with appropriating/arranging this material and attaching one's name to it for public performance.

    Secondly, the scores/parts for a few films are commercially available, either the actual scores or very nice arranged suites pulled from the films, especially musicals. For a fact, lots of John Williams' stuff is published, plus others like Aaron Copland and Erich Korngold can be located.

    Also, it might help if you could narrow down what you are seeking: how far back do you want to go; any particular period, e.g., 30's, 40's, ...90's, right now; any particular film genre, e.g., Western, Sci-Fi, Romance, Adventure, any particular composer(s), i.e., is a theme concert in any way; etc.?
    Thanks for reply. The general idea is "genesis of film music", so the music should cover the time period from early 30' to these days. I am not much interested in suites (although this could very simplify the task), but in short samples - themes to demonstrate the progress over the years. I would also appreciate tips for already arranged scores (as for hire so for buy). However, I think, most of the music still has to be re-arranged according with my particular needs, namely orchestra size, location and occasion.
    Petr Pololanik, M.A.
    Conductor, Orchestrator, Music Producer
    Capellen Music Production

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Thanks for reply. The general idea is "genesis of film music", so the music should cover the time period from early 30' to these days. I am not much interested in suites (although this could very simplify the task), but in short samples - themes to demonstrate the progress over the years. I would also appreciate tips for already arranged scores (as for hire so for buy). However, I think, most of the music still has to be re-arranged according with my particular needs, namely orchestra size, location and occasion.
    That's quite an ambitious project! Could you possibly elaborate on your "particular needs"?

    Here is a quick list of some things I think might be representative historically, while being at least partly recognizable to a general audience. Unfortunately, there's some really good film music out there that in many cases isn't necessarily "theme" oriented. I'm not sure whether these types of scores would be of interest to you or a general audience, but I've included a few in the list anyway. I tried to keep the selections as "orchestral" as possible. Good luck with your planning/concert!

    The Adventures of Robin Hood, 1938 (Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
    The Wizard of Oz, 1939 (Herbert Stothart, w/music & lyrics by Harold Arlen/E.Y.Harburg)
    Gone with the Wind, 1939 (Max Steiner)

    The Sea Hawk, 1940 (Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
    Citizen Kane, 1941 (Bernard Herrmann)
    The Red Pony, 1949 (Aaron Copland)

    The Day the Earth Stood Still, 1951 (Bernard Herrmann)
    High Noon, 1952 (Dimitri Tiomkin)
    Ben-Hur, 1959 (Miklos Rozsa)

    Psycho, 1960 (Bernard Herrmann)
    The Magnificent Seven, 1960 (Elmer Bernstein)
    El Cid, 1961 (Miklos Rozsa)
    How the West was Won, 1962 (Alfred Newman)
    Lawrence of Arabia, 1962 (Maurice Jarre)
    The Great Escape, 1963 (Elmer Bernstein)
    A Shot in the Dark, 1964 (Henry Mancini)
    Planet of the Apes, 1968 (Jerry Goldsmith)

    The Godfather, 1972 (Nino Rota)
    Jaws, 1975 (John Williams)
    Star Wars, 1977 (John Williams)
    Alien, 1979 (Jerry Goldsmith)

    Raiders of the Lost Ark, 1981 (John Williams)
    Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, 1982 (James Horner)
    The Natural, 1984 (Randy Newman)
    Back to the Future, 1985 (Alan Silvestri)
    Ran, 1985 (Toru Takemitsu)

    Dances with Woves, 1990 (John Barry)
    Jurassic Park, 1993 (John Williams)
    The Shawshank Redemption, 1994 (Thomas Newman)
    The Matrix, 1999 (Don Davis)
    The Sixth Sense, 1999 (James Newton Howard)

    The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, 2001 (Howard Shore)

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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Vertigo by Bernard Herrmann

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkHn8PNGYaA

    Battle of the Skies by Sir William Walton

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e7SG5u3jWI

    or a nice march by Ron Goodwin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZJdR...eature=related

    or something a little more relaxing by Ron again

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu5hJG14t4o

    or something a little more jazzy by David Shire

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXrEptVgUnc

    or something slightly manic by Jerry Goldsmith

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLr1yz3Oog

    or something western by Elmer Bernstein

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm3kq...eature=related

    and finally by the great Elmer Bernstein

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0nzKbUgw4



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    Re: Film Scoring - help needed

    Thanks Darwin for such a professional listing as wel as to all of you for your tips! Your input is very valuable to me to set up audience oriented program! As there is still some time to make decision about the dramaturgy, please, feel free to comment or give another tips. Believe to set up really interesting event with your help! Thanks again!
    Petr Pololanik, M.A.
    Conductor, Orchestrator, Music Producer
    Capellen Music Production

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