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    CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Isn't nice, this first Opus of the 15 years old Chopin. He composed this in 1825 (Chopin 1810-1849).

    It was a hell of a job, because of the turns (they were wrong in my version of the score, so I switched to IMSLP). Overture doesn't allow for accidentals together with turns, so I had to correct them in Sonar, one by one. I've put a question at the Overture Forum to program this feature.

    On one or two occasions the result of the turns is not quite to my liking but due to the limited staff settings in Sonar I couldn't get them as I would have played them.

    Rondo in C minor by Frédéric Chopin

    Enjoy,

    Raymond

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Raymond:

    A really great job on this. I thought your turns were very
    well programmed even though it cost you extra time to
    accomplish this task. If I had to recall anything that might
    have detracted from the overall performance, I would have
    to say that in places the piano sounded too brilliant...like
    the velocity was too high. This just a small point Raymond,
    so no biggie. In otherwords, the piano tone wasn't as round
    as I expected it to be in places.

    Thanks for bringing this piece to life. I was not too familiar
    with it before today. Although I have heard it, I never played
    it during the course of my serious, early study.


    BRAVO, Raymond

    Jack
    Jack Cannon--MacBook Pro (2015, 13") GPO4/5, JABB3, Auth. STEINWAY, YAMAHA CFX, Gofriller CELLO, Stradivari VIOLIN, COMB2, WORLD, HARPS, PIPE ORGANS, FINALE 2014.5, Mac Pro 2.66 GHz CPU, 8 GB RAM, DP 9.5, MOTU Traveler, MOTU Micro Express, MacBook Pro (2012, 13") 2.2 Ghz CPU, 8 GB RAM.

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhap2 View Post
    Raymond:

    A really great job on this. I thought your turns were very
    well programmed even though it cost you extra time to
    accomplish this task. If I had to recall anything that might
    have detracted from the overall performance, I would have
    to say that in places the piano sounded too brilliant...like
    the velocity was too high. This just a small point Raymond,
    so no biggie. In otherwords, the piano tone wasn't as round
    as I expected it to be in places.

    Thanks for bringing this piece to life. I was not too familiar
    with it before today. Although I have heard it, I never played
    it during the course of my serious, early study.


    BRAVO,
    Raymond

    Jack
    Noted and corrected. Thanks. It was great pleasure working on this. Why? Why not? It is always Mazurkas, Polonaises, Waltzes, etc.... I was curious about the "beginning" of his career, that's why.

    Raymond

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Very well done Raymond,

    Very nice and alive performance. I like the subtil Variations of tempo and velocity.
    Your turns seem very good (As I do not know how you imagined them).
    Would you allow me tu use your performance to make a flash animation on my site, like the one I've done for the Mozart's symphony n°25 I posted a few weeks ago, with the rondo parts and the keys.
    Thank you.
    Thierry

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Thierry Lecadieu View Post
    Would you allow me tu use your performance to make a flash animation on my site, like the one I've done for the Mozart's symphony n°25 I posted a few weeks ago, with the rondo parts and the keys.

    Thank you.
    Thierry
    Yes, please do. I am awaiting the final product of this. You have the score? Here it is, the link to IMSLP

    http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usim...ondo__Op_1.pdf

    Raymond

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    That's impressive work my friend. I'm keeping this one in my library if you don't mind!

    Just one observation: I don't know if it was a conscious decision on your part to extend the Bb - Ab figure that starts on p.11 of the score (last measure on the page etc) since you have the Bb lasting for three notes of the left hand instead of the two that is in the score. At any rate, it makes for an interesting effect.

    Fantastic work, and thanks for sharing this!

    Best wishes
    Owen

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Hello Owen,

    not only this bar/measure has it, all other similar bars have it too. It was in my score, which is slightly different from the IMSLP version.

    If you don't mind downloading 85,9 Mb go to

    http://www.box.net/shared/1deb7p5zsm

    for a full wave file, I've put there for another forum member.

    Raymond

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    not only this bar/measure has it, all other similar bars have it too. It was in my score, which is slightly different from the IMSLP version.
    Aha! Isn't amazing how scores can differ so. Thanks for the explanation.

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Raymond, this is superb!

    Thank you!

    As for the turns, ask five different "experts", you'll
    get six different answers -- and on the earlier
    Chopin scores, there seems to be, as Owen alluded,
    a lot of variance amongst versions. Whether that's
    due to "helpful" editors or Chopin's own revisions, later,
    remains unclear.

    In any event: Bravo!

    My best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

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    Re: CHOPIN Rondo in C minor, Opus 1

    Raynond

    Great work on this.

    I went last weekend and saw Chopin's Piano concerto in F last weekend and was reminded of how good his music is.

    This piece is not as fast and furious as some of his pieces but still a very enjoyable work.

    Actually, I think that it might be as fast, it's just that Chopin's music flows so well that sometimes The piece doesn't seem as fast as it rteally is. If that makes any sense.

    Ron
    "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein

    http://composersforum.ning.com/profile/RonaldFerguson

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