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    China Sea Nocturne (Strad added on 3-6-09)

    I am sure many of you have seen a lake or a pond that was so calm it looked like a piece of glass. Well the China Sea gets like that from time to time and at night with the stars all shining it is a sight to behold.

    I composed this in less than 2 hours, but since I now have learned more techniques to use in Sonar with the mixing, instead of a couple hours more to get it ready. I spent about 8-10 hours more getting it right.

    The Piano is the GASP and the Violin is from GPO. (Wish I had the Strad)

    Edit: Randy (rbowser) was kind enough to take my midi and render it with the Strad (adding cc inputs) and then send me the Audio file which I took into Sonar and put with the Steinway.

    This is that result

    http://www.box.net/shared/kvp0fbxdev

    Here is the original

    http://www.box.net/shared/t42lvu7ptk

    This piece should be played quietly, but I am not sure if I got the volume right. Too loud? Or too Quiet?

    Comments are most welcome

    Thanks

    Ron
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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    Hi Ron, I think you got the volume right on this, and the spirit right, and the serenity right. This is a very nice sonic depiction of the seascape you have written about. Somehow this conveys to me the calm and flat water. I couldn't help but think that the erhu would sure sound nice in this. Hopefully there will be one in the World instrument library. I thought you might like to hear what the erhu can do in the hands of a great player. Here is ten minutes of some nice examples of the different sounds that are possible. This gets interesting at about two minutes in, and then again at 4:20 when there is some pizz or plucking of the strings.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBLl...eature=related

    Nice writing and recording on this piece, Ron. Thanks! John

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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    This piece sounded fine as far as mixing and volume.

    It's exactly what you depict with it's calming tone. Very oriental.

    I've been viewing erhu videos on YouTube recently and your music fits right in there.

    It was a pleasant piece to listen to. I hope you are finding piece with your music Ron.



    Phil

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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    Ron,

    I enjoyed how the hands start very separated and the piano is more sparse than clustered. A very soothing violin line; the right hand, for me, echoing the reflection of stars. Very cool! And of corse your harmonic fingerprints are clear and distinct. A unique change from your previous posts. Enjoyed!

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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    Jon

    I considered using an Erhu with this and have a pretty good sample of one, but I decided to go with what I know.

    Phil

    I may not be finding peace, but a nice piece would work even better. I know that is not what you meant, but I had to do it.

    Michael

    Little duets like these are easy to put together and help me to solidify ideas that I have for my more in depth works. A bit different from the past few, but you have heard a number of these little quickies in the past. I think I controlled the piano a lot better in this one and your comment seems to agree with that.

    Thanks guys

    Ron
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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    Very serene and relaxing. Your point is well made. I have always been fascinated by oceans, rivers & lakes. We seem to have observed the China Sea under different circumstances. I remember it as mostly hot and hazy, too much sand and salt in the breeze.

    I have always wanted to compose something illustrating my feeling about being in mid pacific, the mixture of loneliness, tranquility, and awe. But I have not yet found a way.

    Richard

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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    A very nice sound, Ron.
    Inspiration from a memory is kind of like the ODE TO A GRECIAN URN.
    The memory & feelings last long after the visitation is over.
    The Grecian poem expresses sentiments that the young person will never grow old: that melodies, unheard somehow ring eternal...

    Gary

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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    You do nothing short of flabbergasting me, Ron - How's that for a corny old word, meant to say I'm amazed at the breadth of your musical abilities and the sheer volume of your prolific output. You make more music in a few weeks than I can manage to do in a year!

    And to us here in The Listening Room who have been enjoying your darkly tinged trip down the rabbit hole with strange Alice, there's no way we could have expected this perfectly evocative watery piece of tranquil beauty to follow in the tumultuous wake of the Red Queen.

    Considering that you're using a somewhat recalcitrant GPO Violin, I think you did fine with the Violin line. It's probably more insistent and less flexible than you would have preferred, but the recording sounds fine.

    Thanks for the beautiful trip to the China Sea!

    Randy

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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    To All

    Randy (rbowser-) was kind enough to render this piece with the Stradivarius and that version can be found here

    http://www.box.net/shared/kvp0fbxdev


    Richard

    I have seen the different moods that the China Sea can display. I just prefer to remember the calm and serene side. The Pacific can be just about any kind of queen or monster she wishes.

    Gary

    The best thing about memories are that the bad gets softer and the good gets improved upon. Thank you for the listen.

    Randy

    I spent a few more hours on this since I sent it to you and think I finally got it right. Your rendering deserved more than a rush job and I think this version does it justice. Thank you for taking the time. One of a kind!!!


    Thanks guys

    Ron
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    Re: China Sea Nocturne

    Ron - My what a lovely sound. I see myself standing on a bridge overlooking a pond with fish swimming, lily pads, a shinto shrine in the background and paths through warm dense foliage. Thanks for the enjoyable tranquill sounds.

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