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    Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    As the virtual guitarist has been discontinued I would like to ask the forum for suggestions on an acou/electr guitar plugin.

    I do not need a lot of features/programmability but an easy, straight-forward way of choosing guitar sound and a library of strumming alternatives.

    /Jakob
    Mac Pro 2*Quad 2.8 GHz, 10 GB RAM, 3*500GB, LOGIC 8.0.2

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    Re: Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    I've always been an advocate of Real Guitar. Though it's been out for a while and, I assume, by now passed in the quality of its samples, it does make it easier to accurately emulate the sound of a real guitar when it is strummed. By that I mean that I can play piano chords on my keyboard and Real Guitar produces the equivalent as it would sound on a guitar. It gives enough ways to control things that I am usually able to get a reasonable approximate of what I am after. If nothing else it tells me if what I am writing will work on a guitar and gives me some indication of how difficult it would be for a guitarist to play.

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    Re: Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    I have the following

    SC Electric Guitar.
    http://www.prominy.com/SC.htm
    Better have 70gbs of disc space though.

    Acoustics Legends HD
    http://www.vir2.com/4DCGI/vir2/produ...ndex.html?1236

    ManyBass/ManyGuitar
    http://www.manytone.com/products.php

    DirectGuitar/DirectBass
    http://www.pettinhouse.com/
    NOTE: For some odd reason this blog is having an issue with the name of the above URL. So cut and paste the name in your browser.

    My Comments:
    I love Acoustics Legends HD, that sample library of acoustic guitars is so awesome.
    I'm learning SC Electric Guitar, lots of multis and getting use to the keyswitches.
    I love the sounds of ManyBass, if you like fretless get the fretless pack for ManyBass.

    DirectGuitar/DirectBass was my first sampled library, it's good but compared to the others, it's not as good. In my opinion.

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    check out applied acoustic systems

    Strum acoustic and soon to be released Strum electric..;-)

    Yves

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    Re: Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    IMHO the Chris Hein Guitars are very playable, have an intuitive system for doing strums and sound realistic.

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    Re: Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by bruno garza View Post
    I have the following

    SC Electric Guitar.
    http://www.prominy.com/SC.htm
    Better have 70gbs of disc space though.

    Acoustics Legends HD
    http://www.vir2.com/4DCGI/vir2/produ...ndex.html?1236

    ManyBass/ManyGuitar
    http://www.manytone.com/products.php

    DirectGuitar/DirectBass
    http://www.pettinhouse.com/
    NOTE: For some odd reason this blog is having an issue with the name of the above URL. So cut and paste the name in your browser.

    My Comments:
    I love Acoustics Legends HD, that sample library of acoustic guitars is so awesome.
    I'm learning SC Electric Guitar, lots of multis and getting use to the keyswitches.
    I love the sounds of ManyBass, if you like fretless get the fretless pack for ManyBass.

    DirectGuitar/DirectBass was my first sampled library, it's good but compared to the others, it's not as good. In my opinion.
    I have some comments concerning the Vir 2 Acoustic Legends HD which may be useful for the potential buyers.

    After thorough (I though!) research I bought the Acoustics Legends HD
    for a couple of months ago. These days one has to think carefully where to invest his money. Unfortunately I was most dissapointed with the
    product, for following reasons:

    1. Control and nuances. The way how the Vir2 AL is
    impelemented and the Kontakt ( 2x in my case) is utilized is
    stoneaged comparing to the present offering of third party Kontakt platform developers.
    Iīve got e.g. Chris Heinīs sax which really uses the possibilities of the new scripting and technology of the Kontakt. Heinīs instrument includes many different controls and keyswitches which bring the nuances of the instruments to the hands of the user. Where are all the basic quitar
    technique/sound details such as slurs, slides, tremolos, bends, tappings,
    hammer on-offs etc. etc.?
    I just pre-ordered the Scarbee Blue Bass which, I dear to believe, also is in the different level comparing the AL.
    Vir2 AL has VERY limited controls, which means narrow selection of different sounds, time consuming controls, less natural sound.
    (I understand that old tech is old tech but the Vir2 hasnīt even given any hope for the update of the product).

    2. The quality of samples. Yes, the quality is good but not exellent in todays standards. Although Vir2 adverts the very high quality of the sampling, these are nothing comparing the latest multi layered sampled instruments which sometimes include more that 200 layers.

    3. The instruments and multis. So far I have found just 1 or 2 usable really good sounding instruments (and multis). AL has wasted space for all kind of unusable boring FX effects such as phasers. Why on earth?
    If I want effects, I can use the Kontakt2 effect for creating much better sounding effects of my own.

    4. The strumming. One of the biggest dissapointment has been very limited and non-sophisticated way how the user can created natural sounding strumming effect/patterns.
    They have up- and downstrokes, but creating good sounding strumming by using them takes a whole day.


    Yes, the demos fo the AL in the Vir2 pages sound good. But donīt
    believe that producing the sound like in the demos is easy (possible?) for you.

    In reality I think that the AL doesnīt bring MUCH more
    than what e.g. the Kontakt2 factory libraries+ includes. If I pay almost $ 300 of the special library, I think that the sound and nuances should be REALLY something extra and worth of this investment.
    (E.g. Chris Heinīs products are stunning and I regret that I didnīt buy his guitar collection.)

    I have given feedback both to the Vir2 and Big Fish Audio, in spite of several
    mails havenīt got one single reply from them. I believe that no developer or dealer shouldnīt afford this kind of behaviour in these days.
    I prefer the direct dialoque with the manufactrurer-end user but in this case
    it hasīt been possible, so far.

    Harry

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    Re: Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_O View Post
    After thorough (I though!) research ...
    Just so no one gets disappoint like Harry, follow this link
    http://www.vir2.com/4DCGI/vir2/produ...ndex.html?1236

    You'll see the guitars sampled and can download the FULL MANUAL that describes Acoustics Legend HD.

    Just for the record Harry, nowhere in the FULL MANUAL does it say that there's
    slurs, slides, tremolos, bends, tappings,
    hammer on-offs etc. etc.


    The FULL MANUAL pretty much tells you what you can do with Acoustics Legend HD.

    After listening to the demos and reading the manual, if it's not up to your "standards", don't purchase it.

    As far as strumming, it is possible.
    How hard or easy it is, that's up to you, not to Acoustics Legend HD.

    I don't use the strumming capibility in Acoustics Legend HD, I went another route...

    I bought this hexaphonic pickup (http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/) and I have Melodyne and can transcribe the individual notes when I record my guitar to get a guitar strum. Is it easy, no. Takes a little work but it's possible.

    I plug in the pickup to my Korg D1600 to record each string.
    I then put those 6 tracks in Logic Studio 8 and use Melodyne/Logic to transcribe the notes.

    I thought about getting a MIDI guitar, but the thought and possiblities of getting individual strings on there own tracks, sounded really cool.

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    Re: Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by bruno garza View Post
    Just so no one gets disappoint like Harry, follow this link
    http://www.vir2.com/4DCGI/vir2/produ...ndex.html?1236

    You'll see the guitars sampled and can download the FULL MANUAL that describes Acoustics Legend HD.

    Just for the record Harry, nowhere in the FULL MANUAL does it say that there's
    slurs, slides, tremolos, bends, tappings,
    hammer on-offs etc. etc.


    The FULL MANUAL pretty much tells you what you can do with Acoustics Legend HD.

    After listening to the demos and reading the manual, if it's not up to your "standards", don't purchase it.

    As far as strumming, it is possible.
    How hard or easy it is, that's up to you, not to Acoustics Legend HD.

    I don't use the strumming capibility in Acoustics Legend HD, I went another route...

    I bought this hexaphonic pickup (http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/) and I have Melodyne and can transcribe the individual notes when I record my guitar to get a guitar strum. Is it easy, no. Takes a little work but it's possible.

    I plug in the pickup to my Korg D1600 to record each string.
    I then put those 6 tracks in Logic Studio 8 and use Melodyne/Logic to transcribe the notes.

    I thought about getting a MIDI guitar, but the thought and possiblities of getting individual strings on there own tracks, sounded really cool.
    I think that this comment didnīt bring much new to the information I gave in my analysis above - you just tell the same things in other words. Just that I donīt think that the demos in the Vir2 pages represent the product and
    my bottom line conclusion that the product is dissapointing in the light of todays standards. The edge of my critique, however, is targeted to the nonchalance of the developer/company towards their clients; I believe that every problem can be solved, every dissapointment can be compensated and every piece of information from the end-user should be valuable in these days for the companys competitiviness. But the Vir2/Big Fish Audio seems to be dumb and deaf. H.

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    Re: Acou/electr guitar plugin - suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_O View Post
    I think that this comment didnīt bring much new to the information I gave in my analysis above - you just tell the same things in other words. Just that I donīt think that the demos in the Vir2 pages represent the product and
    my bottom line conclusion that the product is dissapointing in the light of todays standards. The edge of my critique, however, is targeted to the nonchalance of the developer/company towards their clients; I believe that every problem can be solved, every dissapointment can be compensated and every piece of information from the end-user should be valuable in these days for the companys competitiviness. But the Vir2/Big Fish Audio seems to be dumb and deaf. H.
    The FULL MANUAL tells you what Acoustics Legend does and what it doesn't/can't do (as in keyswitches not available) and the demos let you hear the quality of the guitars.
    Chris Heins Guitars http://www.s0unds0nline.com/Chris-He...pr-BS-402.html (replace the zeros with the letter o) gives you relative information.

    You knew of all the great features of Chris Heins Guitars, but you purchased Acoustics Legend.
    Why did you choose Acoustics Legends over Chris Heins Guitars?

    Chris Heins Guitars has been out at least since April 2007, since it won an award then.

    I don't get why you picked Acoustics Legend HD.

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