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    composing with ensemble patches...

    I used to hate the concept of ensemble patches, but i've been using them on my last project and loving them! I had a lot of composing/arranging to do and I didn't want to mess around with 3 or 4 tracks per string instrument for every articulation i'd need plus the extra cpu demand... the quickness of arranging stuff out is just so slow.

    so instead, 3 tracks for legato, pizz and stacc. then i'm off. Its made it easier to chunk out arrangments and I think it'll be easier to fine to it later into individual violin 1 and 2, viola...etc. tracks later.

    who else does this?

    i do get frustrated that I don't really have sample libraries that bulk every articulation into one track but i got to work with what i got.


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    Re: composing with ensemble patches...

    Quote Originally Posted by n8tron View Post
    I used to hate the concept of ensemble patches, but i've been using them on my last project and loving them! I had a lot of composing/arranging to do and I didn't want to mess around with 3 or 4 tracks per string instrument for every articulation i'd need plus the extra cpu demand... the quickness of arranging stuff out is just so slow.

    so instead, 3 tracks for legato, pizz and stacc. then i'm off. Its made it easier to chunk out arrangments and I think it'll be easier to fine to it later into individual violin 1 and 2, viola...etc. tracks later.

    who else does this?

    i do get frustrated that I don't really have sample libraries that bulk every articulation into one track but i got to work with what i got.

    For me this is a good way too.

    For composing I often load a piano, my Sonivox Stringensemble and Sonivox brassensemble and compose only with this 3 instruments.

    After that I load the special articulations from my other libs and complete the composition.

    Gunther
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

    Listen to me, tuning my triangle http://www.box.net/shared/ae822u6r3i

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    Re: composing with ensemble patches...

    yeah i'm using the sonivox strings as well.

    I did the basic composition already with just piano, and now sketching out arrangement ideas.


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    Re: composing with ensemble patches...

    Do the sonivox strings work with K3/3.5 or just K2?

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    Re: composing with ensemble patches...

    Quote Originally Posted by linwood View Post
    Do the sonivox strings work with K3/3.5 or just K2?
    What I use are 2 solo-virtual instruments from Sonivox. I think they are no longer aviable..., can`t find them on their website.

    It is something like this:http://sonivoxmi.com/ProductList.asp...ment+%28DVI%29

    Best,

    Gunther
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

    Listen to me, tuning my triangle http://www.box.net/shared/ae822u6r3i

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    Re: composing with ensemble patches...

    Quote Originally Posted by linwood View Post
    Do the sonivox strings work with K3/3.5 or just K2?
    I have the whole S.I.S.C. and it is running fine in K 3.5 on Harpertown Macs. K3.5 seems tohave some issues on the new Nehalem 8 cores.
    Composer, Logic Certified Trainer, Level 2,
    author of "Going Pro with Logic Pro 9."

    www.jayasher.com

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    Re: composing with ensemble patches...

    they work great on k3.5.

    not to derail my own thread here but kontakt 3.5 is ridiculously awesome. My projects feel so much snappier! CPU is a bit up but I have plenty of that. and its only a beta!! awesome.


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    Re: composing with ensemble patches...

    I've always used ensemble patches for composing/arranging - but I seldom use them for the final product. They do make it much easier to immediately see/hear if your idea is going to work.

    Once in a while I'll use them for a final if it's a situation where the strings aren't particularly critical or where it's not important that they sound 100% authentic.

    I created in K2 an ensemble DXF full orch patch for my EWSO stuff. It works really well in most situations.

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