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    i7-920 vs C2D 3.0ghz for Omnisphere

    I recently purchased Omnisphere, and, after playing around with some of the stacked presets, I've come to realize that my 2.4ghz Core2Duo isn't quite up to the task. So I've decided to upgrade my system. My question is, which would be better able to handle Omnisphere: A Core i7-920 (2.66ghz quad core), or a Core2Duo e8400 (3.0ghz dual core)? I'm also willing to consider a Core i7-950 if necessary. Thanks.

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    Re: i7-920 vs C2D 3.0ghz for Omnisphere

    You really need a hardware forum for this sort of question. Firstly you should not design a system around a VST no matter how good.
    However I would say that the core i7 is far ahead of the rest (check Tom's hardware for tests). A 920 (like mine) runs fast enough for most tasks. You should thin about RAM also I have 12 gig but this is only necessary if your running in 64 bit. I have omni running in J bridge in 64 bit and it works fine here in Cubase 5. You can overclock a 920 to run at around 3 ghz.The other more expensive i7's are a lot more money for only a small gain in speed.
    All are blazing fast.
    My Guess (and its only a guess) is that omni will be 64 bit by the end of the year, as will most major VSTs. You dont say what sequencer, what sound card etc. There are a lot of things to consider before going 64, especially drivers for sound cards and any dongles. If you run in 32 bit you wil see speed too but RAm hits a limit of around 3-4 gig in 32 bit. Any more in 32 and its useless.

    Read up, dont buy the duo if you can afford an i7. Think about motherboard too gigabyte or Asus is my tip. Fans and case need consideration to, the stock fan is OK but no more - cases should be aluminium for heat transfer.
    Dont rush in with the first sales pitch and you can have a machine that will work wonders. Overclockers uk get my vote for build or Digital Village for a bespoke audio machine (but you pay more).
    Its not hard to build yourself - if you have a bit of a leaning.


    Zero
    Core i7 920, Win 7 RC 64, Cubase 5 64, Omnisphere, Trilogy, RMX, EWQLSO Plat EW Choirs, GPO, Stradivari, Gofrilla, Absynth 4, Halion 3, Kontakt3, BFD2, VSL Strings, JBridge running all 32 bit apps well.

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    Re: i7-920 vs C2D 3.0ghz for Omnisphere

    Thanks for the reply! Judging by the benchmarks at Tom's Hardware, it looks like the i7 is definitely the way to go. Now I have to decide whether to put it together myself or go the Dell route...

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    Re: i7-920 vs C2D 3.0ghz for Omnisphere

    OK.
    Core 2 Duos are not sufficient for today's demands. They were never really that good anyway.

    You need the i7 920 but do not overclock, that's just asking for trouble.

    What you should look toward doing is moving into a 64 Bit OS and get at least 12 Gigs of RAM. That would be minimum.
    4 Gigs (with the switch) is way underpowered.

    See if your local computer store offer Barebones systems.
    That way all you have to do is add hard drives and the easy stuff.
    I would not go Dell unless you have no choice.
    2 X Intel i7 920 sys. 12 gigs Ram. XP & Win 7 64
    Cubase 5. Kontakt 4. EWQL C.C.C. (Play)
    Vienna Instruments SE & Plus. Symphobia. GPO.
    RME HDSPe AIO KRK V8s Avalon Vt-747sp
    M-Audio Keystation Pro 88


    My two passions. Music and Cooking.
    Both require just the right ingredients....

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    Re: i7-920 vs C2D 3.0ghz for Omnisphere

    > Core 2 Duos are not sufficient for today's demands.

    It really depends on what ones demands are, but I would also
    prefer a quad-core over a dual-core. Quad-systems still run
    much smoother under higher load that Dual-cores.

    > They were never really that good anyway.

    I really can't support that notion. When the the Core2Duo
    family entered the market 3 years ago, it blew everything
    else away. The old P4-architecture sucked big time and
    even the Athlon64 stuff was degraded by this new Intel-
    stuff.

    But well - it is now 3 years later and technology moves on...

    If I would buy a new system (which I don't since I have a
    Core2Quad with 8GB of RAM), I would definately go for a
    i7 with at least 6GB of RAM (which would require a 64 bit
    OS).

    Best regards,
    Tobias

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    Re: i7-920 vs C2D 3.0ghz for Omnisphere

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias Erichsen View Post
    > Core 2 Duos are not sufficient for today's demands.

    It really depends on what ones demands are, but I would also
    prefer a quad-core over a dual-core. Quad-systems still run
    much smoother under higher load that Dual-cores.

    > They were never really that good anyway.

    I really can't support that notion. When the the Core2Duo
    family entered the market 3 years ago, it blew everything
    else away. The old P4-architecture sucked big time and
    even the Athlon64 stuff was degraded by this new Intel-
    stuff.

    But well - it is now 3 years later and technology moves on...

    If I would buy a new system (which I don't since I have a
    Core2Quad with 8GB of RAM), I would definately go for a
    i7 with at least 6GB of RAM (which would require a 64 bit
    OS).

    Best regards,
    Tobias
    Tobias,

    What I meant was that with today's prices it seems sensless buying a Core 2 Duo when for a little more you can get a Quad i7.

    The Core 2 Duo is a good machine but I never thought it was that great.
    You're right though. My remarks were a little brash.
    I just expected a lot more from them.

    I would also suggest that with a move to 64 Bits one should get at least 12 Gigs of RAM.

    For today's Play libraries and similar you need that!

    I just maxed out one of my i7s to 24 Gigs of RAM.
    OMG ya gotta love it.
    Funny, one day that will seem lame
    2 X Intel i7 920 sys. 12 gigs Ram. XP & Win 7 64
    Cubase 5. Kontakt 4. EWQL C.C.C. (Play)
    Vienna Instruments SE & Plus. Symphobia. GPO.
    RME HDSPe AIO KRK V8s Avalon Vt-747sp
    M-Audio Keystation Pro 88


    My two passions. Music and Cooking.
    Both require just the right ingredients....

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    Re: i7-920 vs C2D 3.0ghz for Omnisphere

    I think your talking about a top spec system here - this is fine if you need it, but so far all that is said is to run omnisphere - this does not need 12 gig it could even happen on 2 gig. Its wise to get the best computer you can but an i7 of any sort is quite sufficent with even 6 gig or even less. The mobos I have seen have six slots, you could start with six gig and then add more if you need, or wait for further price drops.
    The main requirement of extra memory is to load different instruments simultaneously. If you are running full orchestras in 24 bit that have been heaviliy sampled in 24 bit you might - very occasionally - max out 12 gigs. If you dont load your tracks with this much you wont need it. Anyways you can freeze tracks in most good sequencers if you need to and this reduces ram needs significantly
    Core i7 920, Win 7 RC 64, Cubase 5 64, Omnisphere, Trilogy, RMX, EWQLSO Plat EW Choirs, GPO, Stradivari, Gofrilla, Absynth 4, Halion 3, Kontakt3, BFD2, VSL Strings, JBridge running all 32 bit apps well.

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