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    OT: Health Care in the United States

    I understand a conservative MEP has been frightening poor Americans on television about healthcare in Great Britain and this now may also happen in the USA.

    Oh dear.






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    I assume you are talking about the comments of Daniel Hamman? I don't at the moment feel his views represent mainstream opinion in UK. Not sure Paul if you are horrified at the prospect of NHS-style healthcare in US or welcoming it?

    I heard on UK Radio 4 yesterday horrific tales of US-residents coming to UK to get NHS treatment due to insurance maximum covers running out, insurance being declined, insurances refusing to pay up due to failure to disclose prior minor ailments, not being able to get insurance due to losing job, etc, etc.

    Obviously without direct experience in the healthcare system in both countries, then comparisons are going to be largely speculative, but my perception of UK system is one that has improved dramatically over the last 5-10 years or so at what I understand to be a per capita cost that is less than that US state spending per capita on public healthcare (ie excluding all the insurance costs and spending that is on top).

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    I am not at all a socialist, very far from it, but the NHS, with all its faults gives piece of mind to everybody here.

    I've got my own health insurance but I know now that I don't have to worry at all about treatment of any kind should I need it. I would probably not have reached my advanced age without it. And as for the lies appearing on the news apparently being broadcast over the pond, I am shocked.

    Of course there's some rationing, there always was and there always will be. I know that advanced treatment for the very old is not always available, but being realistic, the very old are often not going to survive advanced treatment.

    There's rationing over there because of the cost, especially the poor, but I suppose that isn't taken in account.

    If the US news is ridiculous on this subject, what can we deduce about other subjects.
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    Re: OT: Health Care in the United States

    Please, no politics here.

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    Re: OT: Health Care in the United States

    Americans have always been frightened of the English - it's a secret Hollywood has known and exploited for years. Daniel Hamman is a very naughty boy going on American television and frightening them all again like that. He's been told off by the conservatives for that totay.

    Seriously though - what Americans need to realize is something that we in Great Britain are only now managing to get to grips with, albeit very slowly - and that is this. Most of the American and British population are what I call 'dangerously obese' - not morbidly obese as it's mostly referred. Dangerously, in the sense that if you were to find yourself in a field of dangerously obese women for example (and they are legion), one or more could easily fall on you and crush you to death. This is why obesity is being taken very seriously now in Britain. The NHS could not possibly cope with thousands and thousands of potential crush victims caused by the dangerously obese and this government knows it!

    Imagine the USA going down the NHS route. Think of all the medical institutions there suddenly being swamped with people that previously didn't carry medical insurance. How would the medical centres cope with a sudden influx of 130 million plus extra patients?

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    I wouldn't mind at all having a national health care plan, but I'd also like to see severe cutbacks in defense, bring our troops home from Iraq in a year, close all the Cold War military bases we have overseas. They need to free up some money to cover the cost of administering such a colossal program. They might also want to crack down on the fraud and illegal activities by private insurers. They should pay for what they promise to pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonata5920 View Post
    Please, no politics here.

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    Maybe this thread could move to the 'Off Topic General Discussion' board.

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    Mantra: I will not respond - I will not respond - I will not respond - I will not respond - I will not respond - I will not respond - I will not respond -

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonata5920 View Post
    Please, no politics here.

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    I am now 59 years old, and unemployed for the past two years.

    Three years ago my mother had to have her first hip replacement and two years ago the second hip replacement. During the second surgery her heart stopped on the operating table and luckly they revived her. Two days later she had to have a pacemaker put in. She then need to spend a few weeks in rehab as a result of the unexpected pacemaker surgery. I had to miss extended periods of time from my job to stay in Little Rock, Arkansas with her during that time.

    Now I have my own spirit killing, soul stealing health issues and no midical insurance of any kind. My previous employer did not offer insurance and would not allow any employees to work more than 37 hours so that he would not have to provide insurance. This was a business that has outlets in most of the countries of the world, but will not provide health care to its employees. So, even if I were still employeed by that company I would not have health care.

    I have health issues that are, I am sure doing nasty damage over time. One day I will have to show up in an emergency room and amass a horrendous medical bill that the tax payers will have to pay for anyway. I had one emergency room visit for sever chest pains and that cost the tax payers $655 good old USA duckets. Hehehe!

    So the real debate should not be how much money it will cost, but how many people will die because they could not get early treatment. How many will loose a limb because they did not have health care. How many children will go blind, live with a cleft lip, end up in a wheel chair because people thought debating was better than actually doing something.

    America is the most shameful country on the planet. Access to the best there is in life, but more often chooses the least just on principle, or worse, fear of helping another person in need.

    The outcome of the debate on healthcare reform in this country is a choice of possible longer, healther life or an early unneccessary and untimly permanent visit to the graveyard!
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