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    DPDAN - Altiverb

    DPDAN,

    I've got it and tried it already. Awesome!!!!! It's a whole new world of reverberation. Now back to your tutorials.

    Raymond

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    I've just purchased it as well. I got it on ebay for AUD $400 from someone who changed their mind.

    I haven't had time to fire it up yet.

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    WOW! I know exactly how you feel Raymond!

    Alan, get that thing going, you don't know what you're missing
    FANTASTIC!

    now..... wanna see something else that is really cool? I recently purchased Melodyne by Celemony. I am mixing a CD for a client who plays violin with piano accompaniment. I sent the violinist a mix of one of the tunes, and she was concerned about some (buzz) (as she described it) on some notes. It turns out, what she was hearing was some weirdness with Digital Performer's pitch correction that I used. I decided it was time to purchase Melodyne, which is considered the king of all pitch software.

    I deleted the pitch changes that I made in DP, and used Melodyne instead, then sent her another mix, asking her to please check it for any weird buzzy sounds.

    Her response back was,, "it's all good!"

    So even though DP's pitch correction made the pitch correct, it evidently made some very high artifacts on some of the notes. Then again, we are talking about altering a solo violin.

    So here is a poorly made video of me messing around with Melodyne. The audio track that I am using is a stereo recording of a string quartet that I recorded about two years ago. In the video, you will see how Melodyne not only shows the root pitch of the detected notes, it shows all the notes, and the user can change the pitch of any of the notes without affecting the others at all. Amazing when you consider that the reverb of this track (Altiverb) is also being corrected for the altered notes.

    What an amazing piece of work Melodyne is!

    Windows Media
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/fun...h_melodyne.wmv 35 mb
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/more_melodynye.wmv 8mb


    Quicktime
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/fun...h_melodyne.mov 22mb
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/more_melodynye.mov 11mb


    Dan

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    Quote Originally Posted by AlanPerkins View Post
    I haven't had time to fire it up yet.
    When you do, do it for a very familiar piece and play with different settings. I used the Stage Settings for the Concertgebouw(Amsterdam). It is great and I am sure you will enjoy it very much. Warning: it doesn't work under SONAR 8/64-bits. So I also installed the 32-bits version of SONAR.

    Having fun,

    Raymond

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    Raymond, check my post, I am uploading the video and it will be available in 7 minutes

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    Dan,

    I have watched your videos now. How cool! I like especially the way/art how you present the tools. It makes always also fun to watch your videos.

    Thanks for sharing this, my friend!

    Gunther
    "Music is the shorthand of emotion." Leo Tolstoy

    Listen to me, tuning my triangle http://www.box.net/shared/ae822u6r3i

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    Quote Originally Posted by DPDAN View Post
    WOW! I know exactly how you feel Raymond!

    Alan, get that thing going, you don't know what you're missing
    FANTASTIC!

    now..... wanna see something else that is really cool? I recently purchased Melodyne by Celemony. I am mixing a CD for a client who plays violin with piano accompaniment. I sent the violinist a mix of one of the tunes, and she was concerned about some (buzz) (as she described it) on some notes. It turns out, what she was hearing was some weirdness with Digital Performer's pitch correction that I used. I decided it was time to purchase Melodyne, which is considered the king of all pitch software.

    I deleted the pitch changes that I made in DP, and used Melodyne instead, then sent her another mix, asking her to please check it for any weird buzzy sounds.

    Her response back was,, "it's all good!"

    So even though DP's pitch correction made the pitch correct, it evidently made some very high artifacts on some of the notes. Then again, we are talking about altering a solo violin.

    So here is a poorly made video of me messing around with Melodyne. The audio track that I am using is a stereo recording of a string quartet that I recorded about two years ago. In the video, you will see how Melodyne not only shows the root pitch of the detected notes, it shows all the notes, and the user can change the pitch of any of the notes without affecting the others at all. Amazing when you consider that the reverb of this track (Altiverb) is also being corrected for the altered notes.

    What an amazing piece of work Melodyne is!

    Windows Media
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/fun...h_melodyne.wmv 35 mb
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/more_melodynye.wmv 8mb


    Quicktime
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/fun...h_melodyne.mov 22mb
    http://www.dankury.com/tutorials/more_melodynye.mov 11mb


    Dan
    Hello Dan,

    Thanks for the links, very entertaining .. and interesting.
    Michael
    Patience is a virtue, sensitivity is a gift

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    The good thing about Melodyne is that you can study in detail how good musicians play. I have always said that good muso's don't play exactly on beat or exactly in (mathematical) tune but that is not random, it is deliberate.

    For example that note in the second violin, it was right where it should be a little something after the cello. There is a system behind it. Sample musicians can learn a ton by studying this.

    The other (but related) thing I noticed in my own experiments with Melodyne is that you really must use your ears for corrections, not your eyes.

    What makes quite some soundtracks of today so similar to samples (IMO) is not only that there are samples in them but also that that their live instruments are often edited to death. My favorite quote in that regard is Bob Olhsson (engineer for Stevie Wonder, Grateful Dead) who wrote:

    "I think the problem with today's overproduction is that too many people don't understand how sophisticated music really is in terms of pitch and time combined with not understanding how listener bias and a lack of objectivity can make one completely deaf to imposing cures that create a worse problem than the original disease."

    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-mu...-end-rock.html

    Another example: if you study the pitch lines in the string quartet I am sure you will discover many notes that change their pitch in the moment when another voice changes the note. This is not mistake, it is because the musicians know, hear and adjust, especially in a good string quartet.
    All your strings belong to me!
    www.strings-on-demand.com

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    PS.: I should add that I know you are well aware of all I wrote, DPDAN. It was more targeted towards a fictive occasional bypasser in this thread. An opportunity to write something down which I had been long waiting for
    All your strings belong to me!
    www.strings-on-demand.com

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    Re: DPDAN - Altiverb

    Hannes,
    I understood,
    your posts are always aimed at helping others...

    It is remarkable software though isn't it?
    Dan

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