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Topic: Some suggestions for improvements in The Grand 3

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    Some suggestions for improvements in The Grand 3

    Hi...some of you might have already heard that Steinberg has released The Grand 3 and that the acoustic pianos were recorded and produced by Worra and SampleTekk. Very good work there indeed! The Yamaha C7 piano on it alone is one of the best, most accurate Yamaha C7 sampled piano I have ever heard. It sounded almost exactly like the real one I played at a piano store recently.

    I do have a few suggestions for improvements, maybe in an update or the next version? One is that I don't hear too much difference between the Player perspective and the Close perspective. Wouldn't it make more sense to have something like a Player/Close perspective and a Audience/Far perspective so that users can choose if they want a dry version or one with more of the natural reverb of the acoustic space it was recorded in. Maybe a Far perspective can be added in an update or later version?

    Another suggestion is to have more low, darker velocity layers. I believe that The Grand 3 has up to 20 velocity layers. They are very nice sounding and transition very smoothly...it is just that they all sound kind of bright. It would be nice to have some softer, mellower lower velocity layers for some very pianissimo playing. I wonder if some instrument programming could address this or if more low velocities have been recorded that could be later added as an updated version (SampleTekk is the master of velocities).

    Apart from that, the sound quality is excellent and the production values are fantastic, coming as it is from SampleTekk. I only make these suggestions to improve an already great product.

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    Re: Some suggestions for improvements in The Grand 3

    Because I am an owner of Grand1 & 2, I was invited to beta test 3.

    Before the official release, we didn't know the origin of the samples, but I remember saying to a fellow musician, that all the pianos sound way too bright to my ears, and I said they sound just like Sampletek samples.

    Imagine my surprise when it was officially released, and it was Sampletek.

    I have played around a lot with the eq in G3, and finally have a few nice presets, but still not my first choice. I always go back to Ivory.

    One of my favorite effects on VST pianos, is the old Steinberg "Magneto"
    it adds some real depth.


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    Re: Some suggestions for improvements in The Grand 3

    I don't think Sampletekk's grands are universally sampled too bright, are they? Listening to the very first 7CG demo ( http://www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/7CG/Adagio7CG.mp3 ) it sounds to me like they have sampled at such low velocities that the piano is almost making no sound at all. The only Sampletekk piano I have at the moment is the White Grand, and I do admit that I wish for mellower soft layers, however I think this is just how the piano sounds - I don't think it's because they omitted the low velocity strikes.


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