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    Arpeggiations

    I have been writing music for some time, and I find myself in deep regret of my lack of skill when it comes to alternatives for arpeggiating chords. For example:

    http://www.box.net/shared/jmnl7r2xcy

    So I guess I have a few questions with this. Is it considered amongst the composer realm lazy writing when you arpeggiate? Or is there a special time and place for it? Also, what alternatives if any do you use instead of arpeggations?
    Yours Truly,
    TubaJediMaster
    May the Fourth Be With You

    My demos:
    http://www.box.net/shared/ejtluyupfb

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    Re: Arpeggiations

    I'd say there is nothing wrong with arpeggios. Mozart used them. Beethoven used them. Wagner used them. Johnny Cash used them.

    The way I see it, arpeggios are a rhythmical way of expressing (usually) a chord and texture. Some instruments cannot play chords, so they would have to arpeggiate, some can't sustain, so they have the need too when played for a longer time. Arpeggios are also a way of adding rhythm. Static chords can be very tense, or soothing or whatever. They also tend to disappear in the background, unless they are played repeatedly with sufficient attack. So arpeggios are just a way, sometimes necessary, of writing the same harmony with a rather different feel. I don't think your example would give the same impression if you'd stacked all notes across different instruments...
    Theo

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    Re: Arpeggiations

    Quote Originally Posted by FLWrd View Post
    I'd say there is nothing wrong with arpeggios. Mozart used them. Beethoven used them. Wagner used them. Johnny Cash used them.

    The way I see it, arpeggios are a rhythmical way of expressing (usually) a chord and texture. Some instruments cannot play chords, so they would have to arpeggiate, some can't sustain, so they have the need too when played for a longer time. Arpeggios are also a way of adding rhythm. Static chords can be very tense, or soothing or whatever. They also tend to disappear in the background, unless they are played repeatedly with sufficient attack. So arpeggios are just a way, sometimes necessary, of writing the same harmony with a rather different feel. I don't think your example would give the same impression if you'd stacked all notes across different instruments...
    Thank you. That does help alot. How's this?

    I put them side by side. The original and the latter. I mean I think it sounds better, but another ear is always good. I also removed the harp, feeling it was too clinky.

    http://www.box.net/shared/jmnl7r2xcy
    Yours Truly,
    TubaJediMaster
    May the Fourth Be With You

    My demos:
    http://www.box.net/shared/ejtluyupfb

  4. #4

    Re: Arpeggiations

    I like the juxtaposition of the version that plays first. I think that in the second version the lines are more consistent, but the first one seems more alive. Difficult...
    Theo

  5. #5

    Re: Arpeggiations

    Quote Originally Posted by FLWrd View Post
    I like the juxtaposition of the version that plays first. I think that in the second version the lines are more consistent, but the first one seems more alive. Difficult...
    Hmm. Maybe in context with the whole piece. Sorry about the crap quality. Just did a quick upload.

    http://www.box.net/shared/8cyxcnbs8i
    Yours Truly,
    TubaJediMaster
    May the Fourth Be With You

    My demos:
    http://www.box.net/shared/ejtluyupfb

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    Re: Arpeggiations

    Quote Originally Posted by tubajedimr View Post
    Hmm. Maybe in context with the whole piece. Sorry about the crap quality. Just did a quick upload.
    That's great fun! So we have a new action hero? Anyway, arpeggios are pretty typical of this kind of music. I guess because it gives a great drive. Perhaps you should start the arpeggios a bar or two before the theme sets in, just to make the transition less sudden, but for the rest your song works for me...

    So, --I hit post before finishing--, to return to your original question: yes, the arpeggio would be my choice.
    Theo

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    Re: Arpeggiations

    I also felt really unoriginal when using arpeggios at first, until I stopped to think about it. When sitting in front of a midi keyboard/piano, it's not always as obvious, but some instruments have to play an arpeggio to form any sort of chord. That's why they're used so often. Not to mention, as the old saying goes, "if it's not broke, don't fix it". Arpeggios are catchy sounding, drive a piece, and just plain old work. No wonder everyone uses them.

    Nice piece you've got there. Hope to hear a better quality upload some time.

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