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    Question Can Trilian articulation default keys be reassigned to suit a 61 note keyboard?

    I have a 61 note keyboard and my lowest key, E2 isn't low enough to extend down to the red articulation keys and I'd have to drop the octaves so low it renders some keys useless.
    I know I could connect another small midi keyboard articulations in a real pinch but that would make my setup very awkward.
    Is it possible to manually change the default articulation keys? I want for he articulations without necessarily changing octaves?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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    Re: Can Trilian articulation keys be changed?

    Sure, just "midi note learn" and "midi note learn inverted" the 8 part buttons on the Live page to whatever you want. Do a MIDI Learn and Automation -> Show Current Assignments on a factory keyswitch multi to see how those are done (look for the LivePart parameters).

    But, I don't understand your "renders some keys useless" comment. The factory keyswitch multis have the most useful notes in the the octaves immediately above the keyswitch notes.

    - Glenn

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    Re: Can Trilian articulation keys be changed?

    I wasn't sure what dblock means by "some keys useless" either, but perhaps it's being suggested that when notes are transposed down in order to access the keyswitches, the upper notes normally produced on the board can no longer be played because the board is out of range for them?? In any case, I suggest that a 61 note controller, while useful for some things, unfortunately is not enough for many libraries/instruments today because of the wide range of the products and the use of keyswitches assigned to the lower or upper keys. For that reason, many of us are now using 88 note controller keyboards in order to gain maximum benefit form products, so that's definitely something to consider at some point if funding is available...........playz
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    Re: Can Trilian articulation keys be changed?

    Quote Originally Posted by playz123 View Post
    I wasn't sure what dblock means by "some keys useless" either, but perhaps it's being suggested that when notes are transposed down in order to access the keyswitches, the upper notes normally produced on the board can no longer be played because the board is out of range for them??
    That's exactly what I meant but couldn't put it down like you just did.
    This issue reminded me that I have a Brian Moore guitar called the MidiAx that I bought on ebay a couple of years ago so I dug it out. It's able to output midi from the standard built in midi jack directly into the vst plugins without need for interfaces or special pickups. Also has the standard guitar jack ans a built in octave switch for switching from guitar to bass so I can just play it without worrying about articulations now. Makes for as realistic bass as I could hope for. I don't have to spend anymore time trying to get good bass tone nor learn how to make the keyboard sound like a bass guitar. Brian Moore quit making the MidiAx years ago. Never understood why. It doesn't excel in slides or pulloffs but makes up for the short comings in other ways since it sounds like a bass being played because it is a bass being played once I hit the octave switch and like a regular guitars in Omnisphere once I move the switch back up an octave. Trilian definitely sounds like a bass being played. I still am working on the keyboard aspect for those times that I must have slides and pulloffs though but for straight bass playing, this is a killer combination.
    Thanks for your input by the way.

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    Re: Can Trilian articulation keys be changed?

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennO View Post
    Sure, just "midi note learn" and "midi note learn inverted" the 8 part buttons on the Live page to whatever you want. Do a MIDI Learn and Automation -> Show Current Assignments on a factory keyswitch multi to see how those are done (look for the LivePart parameters).

    But, I don't understand your "renders some keys useless" comment. The factory keyswitch multis have the most useful notes in the the octaves immediately above the keyswitch notes.

    - Glenn
    Thanks alot Glenn.
    Sorry for the confusing comment. Playz123 was able to say what I meant better than I could but it doesn't matter now since you solved my issue.
    You called it exactly. It works great now.
    Thanks a alot for taking the time.
    dblock

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