Symphobia 2 is comming

[keithjfuller]

I think what pisses people off is that composers (most) feel like little guys. They see samples as a thing that helps them achieve their music without having to rent out an orchestra (which there is NO WAY people can afford to do every time they write a piece). For most of us, it's the only way we'll ever get to hear our music.

Sample companies have come to our rescue, and they typically act like they are our friends. This makes composers feel like the developers are on "their side" (and in many cases they are). But when a product comes out, and they can't afford it I think they feel a little betrayed. Then we realize that sample companies aren't really our friends. They are a business, just like Best Buy and Amazon. Their number one goal is to make money.

I'm not demonizing the sample developers, and I'm not justifying customers getting angry. I'm just expressing the feeling I think a lot of us have.

[Thundamentalist]

Hi

Could anybody offer any advice on whether I should go for Symphobia or wait for Symphobia 2?

The legato content is obviously very tempting but would you say Symphobia has more to offer overall?

Thanks
Mike

[playz123]

Hi

but would you say Symphobia has more to offer overall?

Thanks
Mike

Not sure anyone but Project Sam can answer that right now, as S2 hasn't even been released yet, so we can't really compare.

[Jeffrey Hayat]

Over the years sample developers have lowered their prices dramtically.

Right - after the libraries have been selling at the original price, and the dev has made - or at least come close to making - their money back. Hey - even P.Sam lowered the price of Symphobia.

It just seems that there are some alternatives to orchestral samples (not apples to apples I know, but still produce great results) that are close to 1/10 the price.

Sure - there is much stuff out there of great quality, but not like Symphobia. I know, aples to apples...

[AlexDavis]

For some reason, I thought this release would be more affordable. When the original Symphobia came out, I jumped on that thing immediately! It could be the fact that the U.S. dollar is in the toilet right now, but I'm surprised that the initial pre-order cost is over a thousand bucks. Unfortunately in this economy, that's just too much for a little guy like me...

When I went over to their website to check out the specs/pricing for Symphobia 2, I was SURE there would be a substantial... well, price break or SOMETHING for those of us who own the original. The current deal just doesn't add up for me- a 150 MB bonus patch is NOT what I'm looking for. an additional price break, even a small one, is what would push me over the edge.

Looks like I'll have to pass on this, I'm extremely disappointed to say.

-Alex

[Jeffrey Hayat]

Keith > points well taken. Especially the fact that sample libs helps people achieve their music without having to rent out an orchestra.

"Sample companies have come to our rescue, and they typically act like they are our friends."

Uhh, well, ANY company that wants your business is going to act that way. I mean, have you seen any commercials for coca-cola?

Speaking of which, I don't think that the comparison to Amazon and Best Buy are fair. Ok, neither is one to coca-cola....lol....but to feel "betrayed" when a sample dev acts all warm and fuzzy with you and then wants to make money off of you....that's jut not fair. I know you just took two HUGE companies, but - Amazon and Best Buy are what they are, and the two biggest sample devs - EW and Vienna - are not even close to being as big, nor that type of comany. It's different when sample lib devs act nice to you because they want your money than when huge corporations do.

Cheers.

[playz123]

Re: "When I went over to their website to check out the specs/pricing for Symphobia 2, I was SURE there would be a substantial... well, price break or SOMETHING for those of us who own the original. The current deal just doesn't add up for me- a 150 MB bonus patch is NOT what I'm looking for"

Couldn't agree more, Alex, and that's basically the point I made in my first post in this thread. There's really not much of an incentive for current owners of Symphobia to buy Symphobia 2 unless they decide, and can afford, to pay full price, and feel they must have it. Heck, most of us haven't even seen or tested the product yet either (audio demos only go so far), nor has it been reviewed by anyone, so who really knows what it's worth yet?

Price certainly is going to be a factor for some, as demonstrated by a few of the threads above. As a consumer, we often don't have a lot of control over that, especially in the beginning, but as a consumer we do have the option to simply forget about any product that is beyond our budget. In addition there are number of new products due for release in the next few months that for some could easily outweigh in importance products like Symphobia 2, so as buyers we must also set priorities, and decide the best way to utilize the funds we do have. Project Sam has a right to charge whatever they feel the product is worth and the market will allow. We have a right to look at their offer and accept or refuse. No hard feelings. My suggestion was simply that current owners might look a little harder or longer if some sort of monetary incentive was offered. Personally.....cost, value, importance and available funding are all things that I'll be considering. Cheers.............frank

[AlexDavis]

I should add that I have little/no doubt that this library is going to be fantastic. I have nothing but faith and confidence in the quality of Project SAM's samples. It's just a money thing really. If money was no object, I'd buy this thing immediately!

The only way I can get this library, because of that price tag, is if it is directly needed for a specific, well-funded project.

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[Justus]

The current deal just doesn't add up for me- a 150 MB bonus patch is NOT what I'm looking for.

Hi Alex,
I don't understand that! You get great variety of completely new sounds for the price of (the now cheaper) Symphobia 1. Isn't this fair?

[AlexDavis]

when you put it that way, well, yes! The price in Euros looks so much better though

If I didn't own Symphobia 1 already, the "Symphobia Pack" would be an enormous deal!