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    Question Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    Hi,
    I have Omnisphere, Trilian and Trilogy. I work on Lenovo R500 (2.26 GHz Core 2 Duo 4GB RAM) with E-mu 1616m interface. DAW is Cubase 5.5. When I raise the latency to 75ms I experience problems on theese three plugins. Trilogy plays with the delay depending of the level of latency . Trilian shortens the sound proportionally to the latency level and Omnisphere mod envelopes don't play tight in time when the latency is high. How can I solve these problems? The pluggins from the other manufacturers I have are not latency reactive during playback. I've contacted Spectrasonics support and they told me to go the Steinberg support. Steinberg suggested to try different drivers e.g. Asio4all. When I switch to the Asio4all drivers problem is the same...
    Has somebody experinced similar problems?

    Thanks

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    Re: Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    Probably a windows problem. I used latency of 1024 samples during mixdown on my Mac on superbusy mixes to ensure artifact free playback and never had that sort of problem.
    Sorry that i cant help you with that problem.

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    Re: Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    I suspect you'll have a hard time finding anyone who has ever used a 75ms audio buffer size. At 44.1 kHz, that's over 3000 samples. If you're trying to conserve cpu, there isn't much point to turning it up beyond 1024 samples.
    Glenn O
    Spectrasonics

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    Re: Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    Well,
    this is a strange thing - like a woke up in another world. I've done lots of records on this level latency using other pluggins and nothing happened. Everything was playing back well no matter what lantency level was set. Than I bought trilogy and noticed that it plays back with the delay (about 30 ms) when I set 75ms buffer. But actually its easy to fix by setting minus 30ms track delay in Cubase, beacuse there was not other issue about it. When I upgraded to Trilian situation was more problematic 'cos it started to shorten the notes and track delay didn't help...

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    Smile Re: Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    I have all 3 of Spectrasonics plugins and don't have problems with them.......BUT......I just have a little Dell Core 2 Duo and I don't push it. I do simple stuff. (8-12 tracks) I won't even upgrade to Trillian until I get a new computer (I7). It's like saying "why am I always coming in last place" when I've still driving my '50 Chevy and most others have Corvettes.

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    Re: Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    Quote Originally Posted by commalot View Post
    I have all 3 of Spectrasonics plugins and don't have problems with them...
    How is your buffer set and which interface do you use?

    thanks

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    Re: Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    Quote Originally Posted by keyzone View Post
    How is your buffer set and which interface do you use?

    thanks
    128 buffer (with a 5.3 ms latency, using M-Audio Firewire 410), although I just last night set it to 256. I'm using Sonar 5 PE in XP SP3. I was going to upgrade to Sonar X1 but it's apparently still buggy. My old system isn't very powerful but is rock steady.

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    Re: Spectrasonics plugins and latency

    Well, at this buffer level I don't have any problems either. But I have different philosophy about computers - I push them to max capabilities. And it worked, actually it still works 'cos I've found half solution of my problem. I use asio4all and set the buffer at 2048 and in the latency compensation section I set in at 1024 and out at 0. In Trilian I disable Round Robin and release sounds. I can work quite smoothly with Trilian, Omnisphere and other pluggins in the project. My conclusion is that Spectrasonics pluggins are very latency output sensitive. The thing I really can't understand is why Cubase doesn't compence the latency while playing back these instruments just like it does with other pluggins?

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