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Topic: What is included with the Sam Brass. Also, upgrade pricing to full Sam Brass.

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    What is included with the Sam Brass. Also, upgrade pricing to full Sam Brass.

    What articulations are included with the Sam Brass?

    Also, I read that owners of GPO4 can get a discount on the full version of Sam Brass.
    What is the upgrade price?

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    Re: What is included with the Sam Brass. Also, upgrade pricing to full Sam Brass.

    I own this and it's great. I don't know if there's an upgrade from GPO or a discount but here is a link to a .PDF file on the projectSAM site of the articulations and instruments:

    projectSAM Orchestral Brass
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    Re: What is included with the Sam Brass. Also, upgrade pricing to full Sam Brass.

    I see that I wasn't clear in my post.

    I am wondering what articulations come with the Sam Brass that is included with GPO4.

    I am wondering about upgrading from GPO2.

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    Re: What is included with the Sam Brass. Also, upgrade pricing to full Sam Brass.

    Quote Originally Posted by P.T. View Post
    I see that I wasn't clear in my post.

    I am wondering what articulations come with the Sam Brass that is included with GPO4.

    I am wondering about upgrading from GPO2.
    I believe what you get with GPO4 is mainly the samples found in the Sam Brass library. It seems that the Sam Brass samples are then manipulated via GPO4's Aria engine in much the same way that it manipulates most of the other orchestral samples. The "work-flow" of creating cresendo/decresendo (dynamics) and legato/staccato (articulation) sounds differ between the Aria engine and the way the Project Sam Brass utilizes Kontakt. The actual Project Sam Brass library uses the key-switching method more for activating the different articulations and even dynamics.

    To be honest with you, purely from a work-flow perspective, I like the way Aria activates dynamic and articulation control better than the way the full Project Sam Brass library does. I HIGHLY recommend the upgrade from GPO2 to GPO4 both for the Aria player and the (partial) Project Sam Brass library.
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    Re: What is included with the Sam Brass. Also, upgrade pricing to full Sam Brass.

    Upgrade to GPO4 absolutely. The SamBrass things that ARE included do very well - although I still like the projectSAM Orchestral Brass Horns better - and if I could use the actual Orchestral Brass library in ARIA I would prefer to do so...but they are still using Kontakt Player (you no longer need the full Kontakt program for this).

    Seems to me the Sam samples have been altered a bit for ARIA - not a criticism just an observation. They are also not as complete in ARIA but do give a good "taste" for the actual SAM library.
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    Re: What is included with the Sam Brass. Also, upgrade pricing to full Sam Brass.

    Quote Originally Posted by P.T. View Post
    What articulations are included with the Sam Brass?

    Also, I read that owners of GPO4 can get a discount on the full version of Sam Brass.
    What is the upgrade price?
    Hi, P.T. - I don't think anyone's answered your question about the discount - because it's not clear to anyone. There was a partnership with Garritan and Sam Brass, and there is supposed to be a discount available - what it is exactly and how one goes about getting it isn't clear to me.

    As to articulations included in GPO4, I think that's rather limited. You get a nice set of all the brass instruments, and even great sounding group instruments - but it's not as if you get an intricate set of different actual articulations.

    I find the Sam Brass in GPO very nice, but of limited dynamic range as compared to the original GPO brass - that's why it's nice to have them both in GPO4. The Sam Brass instruments all tend to sound constantly forte, with the bells ringing, no "brass over" layers needed, because those kind of sounds are constantly there. Their tuning is more wavering, they're more raw, they're not as nuanced as the GPO brass - but they help pieces with brass immensely, as long as they're used in combination with the GPO brass, which in my opinion, are more musically sophisticated.

    Randy

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