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    Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    Hi!
    I'm a new Jabb3-user, an decided I'll run a little test-project first to learn basic skills. Hoping you could help me along the way

    I'm focusing on a small horn-section, using
    - Trumpet1 (open)
    - Trombone1 (open) and
    - C Melody Sax 1

    I've made a directory where you can find all files:
    http://g-sun.no/Upload/Jabb3/One/

    Included:
    - Reaper project-file (Jabb3-test1.RPP)
    - Mix1 (mp3)

    The DAW is Reaper latest rc:
    http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=22836
    (will be replaced by ordinary releases when version 4 is out)

    So, can you help me out?
    What are the basic techniques I need to add to this piece, to turn it into gold (golden brass that is )

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    Re: Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    Looking like this:

    and this:

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    Re: Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    First I need to get the mod-wheel-movements right.
    I tended to use the mod wheel as vibrato, but that's not the best technique, right?

    So, are there any basic tutorials for mod-wheel on brass? Tips?

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    Re: Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Sun View Post
    First I need to get the mod-wheel-movements right.
    I tended to use the mod wheel as vibrato, but that's not the best technique, right?

    So, are there any basic tutorials for mod-wheel on brass? Tips?
    I would really start with the Tom Hopkins tutorials (click here). There are SONAR files and MIDI files that should show you some of the basic techniques. I also coverted the projects to JABB3 (because they are the older JABB Kontakt player files), but the MIDI files should work OK to give you ideas.

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    Re: Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Sun View Post
    First I need to get the mod-wheel-movements right.
    I tended to use the mod wheel as vibrato, but that's not the best technique, right?

    So, are there any basic tutorials for mod-wheel on brass? Tips?
    I also posted the beginnings of a JABB3 project (String of Pearls). It has an MP3, plus the MIDI file and 3 Aria Ensemble files (so you can easily map the tracks to the correct Aria settings).

    There are Sax and Brass techniques in there that should help some.

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    Re: Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by jdsnyderii View Post
    I would really start with the Tom Hopkins tutorials (click here). There are SONAR files and MIDI files that should show you some of the basic techniques. I also coverted the projects to JABB3 (because they are the older JABB Kontakt player files), but the MIDI files should work OK to give you ideas.
    Thanks, that's an excellent idea. I find those pieces outstanding.
    So, if I can undrstand those, then I'm most certainly on the right track.
    You don't happen to have the Jabb3-versions of them to share?

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    Re: Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by jdsnyderii View Post
    I also posted the beginnings of a JABB3 project (String of Pearls). It has an MP3, plus the MIDI file and 3 Aria Ensemble files (so you can easily map the tracks to the correct Aria settings).

    There are Sax and Brass techniques in there that should help some.
    Thanks a lot! Well, no offense, but Tom Hopkins' demos sounds a bit better. So, I'll go for those first.

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    Re: Turning brass to gold -first attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Sun View Post
    Thanks a lot! Well, no offense, but Tom Hopkins' demos sounds a bit better. So, I'll go for those first.
    I have been corresponding with Tom, I am actually waiting on him to "approve" the conversion. Since they are his demos, I don't want to just send them out. They should come from Garritan since they are their demos. The reason I posted the String of Pearls files (and yes I agree Tom's are better) is that you can have the ensemble, MIDI, and Sonar files without having to wait for an update to the demos.

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    Sax

    My first impression on the mix above is that the sax sounded worse than trumpet and trombone.
    Is it harder to get a good sax-sound out of JABB3?
    I was told that this was a general thing for sampled sax. So, maybe I'll leave the sax out of my default brass section..

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    Else, I'm closing up this thread-project.
    I'll do as I do with most instruments: Rehearse 30min and start recording

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