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    Smile Two questions of a dummy

    I am a very-very amateur music lover and I am trying to learn music making and orchestring by (I think trial and error). I have purchased the following (some a while ago, some not so long ago):
    • Garritan Personal Orchestra
    • Sibelius First
    • Garritan Instant Orchestra
    It works beautifully together (i.e. when I call for a Steinway in Sibelius, I see in the mixer that is chooses Steinway from Garritan, and so on). I have a few questions though:
    1. When I use Sibelius, I can use my querty-keyboard to input the notes (when I call up the keyboard, I can use a - g to play the instrument, and use CTRL-DOWN ot CTRL-UP to go down or UP an octave). Can you play the Aria Standalone keyboard by the qwerty-keyboard and how ? (I have seen this happen in video, allthough maybe they were playing some midi-keyboard - also, when you read the accompanying user's guide, you can only play it by mouse, which makes chords hard to do).
    2. Can you (and how) mix the several instruments and play them as ine instrument (for example, play all the strings with one keyboard) ? This is off course not doable when the note-range is not entirely the same. I have the notion that Garritan IO serves this function, allthough I only can play one instrument at the time. I can still mix them together when playing the parts seperately in Sibelius.
    3. Is there a Garritan Users guide or book for dummies like me, because some of the stuff are prerequired knowledge, as I read it ? Or some easy to follow tutorials which begin from the beginning ?
    4. I have not very much room in my study, and I am looking for a small USB midi-keyboard (25 keys or so), because qwertying can be a hassle. Can you give me some advice here ?

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    Re: Two questions of a dummy

    2- Yes, if you put all the instruments you want to play at once in the same midi channel. ARIA have an slot for each instrument, look at the last number of the slot with two arrows above. That is the midi channel.

    4-This two ones are very small, can serve your purposes:

    http://www.korg.com/nanoseries2

    http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Oxygen25.html
    Marcelo Colina

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    Re: Two questions of a dummy

    I can vouch for the Oxygen -- I've got the first version (Oxygen8, about 12 years old) and it still does the job. M-Audio stuff is built to last.
    Best,
    Tom Smith
    www.tomsmithonline.com

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    Re: Two questions of a dummy

    I have the original Oxygen 8 - made back when I trusted M-Audio. Their gear was very good. I have tried the korg nano-series. Had to return a couple units because of keys not registering or functioning correctly. After two exchanges I got one that worked but was so exasperated I traded them all in and got a Roland a800 Pro keyboard which covers all of the functions of the korg nano-series units. It works great - runs on USB power or house current and has a USB midi interface built in.

    Getting set-up correctly with gear and software that will work for you as a beginner is important. I know you have Sibelius but IMHO you might consider Finale. Also a sequencing program like SONAR will help with audio manipulation which may help improve your orchestration chops in a quicker way.

    Good luck! You have found a great forum with helpful people who are very knowledgeable and open.
    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

    http://reberclark.blogspot.com http://reberclark.bandcamp.com http://www.youtube.com/reberclark

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    Re: Two questions of a dummy

    Thanks all for the replies (allthough I can't still play two instruments at once: I have to choose an instrument in the Instant Orchestra standalone instrument, and no matter if I connect the rest of the instruments to channel 01, it stil plays only one instrument. But maybe it goes better if I attach an external or virtual keyboard to that channel).

    When I got to the Sonar Webpage, there was a wealth of different products (Sonar X1 Studio, Essential etc). From the look of it, it looks like Sonar Studio is offering what I want. But then I saw the add of Music Maker, and I got confused with so many choices. So what can you recomment ?

    By the way, I am thinking on buying the Oxygen 25 - 25-Key USB MIDI Controller

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    Re: Two questions of a dummy

    Quote Originally Posted by reberclark View Post
    ... I know you have Sibelius but IMHO you might consider Finale... .
    Sibelius is an excellent program and I see no need for you to move to Finale, better to spend your money on a verisn of Sonar, or moving up to the full version of Sibelius if you are still on Sibelius first.
    //
    // Ars longa, vita brevis
    // http://edosbear.blogspot.com/
    //

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    Re: Two questions of a dummy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Sharpe View Post
    Sibelius is an excellent program and I see no need for you to move to Finale, better to spend your money on a verisn of Sonar, or moving up to the full version of Sibelius if you are still on Sibelius first.
    Agree. Sonar is probably the best choice.

    Not to put down Sibelius but FYI - MakeMusic, the producers of Finale, have acquired Garritan Corporation.
    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

    http://reberclark.blogspot.com http://reberclark.bandcamp.com http://www.youtube.com/reberclark

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