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    Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    If anyone is interested in hearing a comparison between Gigasampler with the Conexant GM500 sample library, and the SB Live with a nice set of GM soundfonts, check out the songs \"Phoenix Rising\" and \"Phoenix Returns\" on my mp3.com site. Phoenix Rising was done with the SB Live and Returns with Giga and the GM500. They both use the identical midi backing track, but the songs are very different. Find them at http://www.mp3.com/starbirth.

    BTW, the backing track for both was done with Jammer Pro.

    If you are interested, there is also a big band style song called Zena\'s Song on the mp3.com site that was done with midi and SB Live. I have a version of the same song done with the GM500 library that you can download from http://cdsol.com/cdsol/downloads/zenagm500.mp3 if you want to compare them. They are entirely midi, where the Phoenix songs have audio tracks as well (guitar, synth, digeridoo, etc.).

    The reason I haven\'t replaced the Zena version that is on MP3.COM is that I don\'t really care for the solo trombone part using the GM500 set. I like the other instruments better, but since the song is mostly solo trombone... Guess I\'m going to have to get my trombone chops back in shape and play the solos since I can\'t afford to pay $600+ for a brass library that is good.

    -- Martin http://www.mp3.com/starbirth


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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    Have you thought about the Bigga Gigga\'s Jinjee\'s horns? There\'s an excellent review on Soniccontrol: http://www.soniccontrol.com/tech/midi/articles/samplecds/jinjeebrass.shtml
    At $59 this is certainly on my list and perhaps may work for you as well.

    Peace,
    Tim http://www.elithic.com

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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    Tim,

    Yes, I have considered Jinjee\'s Brass, but frankly the demo was so bad I decided against it. Sonic Control is down right now, but I will definitely check out the review. I have already bought some of Worra\'s CD\'s and would buy it in a second if I thought it would be better than the brass I have now.

    -- Martin

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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    By the way... nice tunes... thanks!

    Oh... and ironically, the review says that the library is worth the price for the horns and trombones alone, which it says are the best samples of the bunch.

    Peace,
    Tim http://www.elithic.com

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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    Tim,

    After reading that review, it seems like a must have for brass. Guess I\'m going to have to give it a try.

    -- Martin

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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    We have received some comments on the demos that we have. I agree that some of them are bad....
    The problem is time I suppose, but I realize that we have to do something about this.
    Would somebody out there be interested in becoming a demo producer?
    In that case, mail me at worra@telia.com
    //Worra

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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    Any chance of getting hold of the orginal midi file as I\'d like to compare the conexant set with my roland sound canvas (sc55)

    T on Y

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by mschiff:
    [B]If anyone is interested in hearing a comparison between Gigasampler with the Conexant GM500 sample library, and the SB Live with a nice set of GM soundfonts, check out the songs \"Phoenix Rising\" and \"Phoenix Returns\" on my mp3.com site


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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    Sorry, but I can\'t provide you with the midi file. There are loads of midi files available that you could use for a comparison though.

    -- Martin

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    Re: Comparison Giga w/GM500 with SB Live

    \"Phoenix Rising\" and \"Phoenix Returns\" sounded different persionalities. If I understand correctly, the Jammer-Pro-program has implemented based-on the SoundCanvas patched (instumental styles), I bet that when you use same MIDI file (with same MIX form SB-LIVE) apply to the soundCanvas (SC-88-Pro, for example), maybe it would sounds much depther and brighter, however the output level must be finetune a bit to match the track\'s velocities since the MIX is based-on SB-LIVE.

    For the \"Phoenix Returns\", it sounds very funny like the background levels are louder than the solo levels, that\'s all. you can MIX same way with the \"Phoenix Rising\", you could get same personalities for both songs.

    What I want to say here is that every GM/GS/XG and even GM500 or GM-soundFont2 are having different output levels (for each tracks), velocities, and built-in effects (reverb, chorus, delay). So, to use the same MIDI file which is specially mixed from certain sound sources might be not a good practical. How about to use the MIDI file was mixed based-on the GM500 then apply same MIX to the SB-LIVE, we\'d like to hear how funny its sounds?

    The best way I can see is to record them to individual tracks in audio sources (DRY with same db levels) then use same effect-processing or NONE to have the mixdown tracks for comparing with others.
    Just a thought,
    LHong


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