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    Orchestral demo

    Just finished a rough mix of an orchestral thingy:
    Sketches of Pain

    It\'s a \"Mission Impossible goes to Irak with a romantic let down in the middle\" kind of a cue [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

    Since I am waiting on EWQLSO to come out to decide whether to go for that or for VSL, I don\'t currently own a full orchestral library.
    I had to do with what I currently own:
    Culture for percs
    Sam Horns & Bones

    ...and of course Tob\'s wonderful contribution to the sample world [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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    Beautiful piece, Patrick! I really like the changes, the density of the arrangement, the castanets, what sounds like a bass clarinet but must be a trombone in the middle, the use of the choir (could come out more in the mix), the mysterious intro, the rainstick...

    My only criticism is that there is a chord that sustains too long when the first breakdown happens (about half-way).

    Good stuff! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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    My buddy from Montreal, sushi indulger:

    Thanks Ned!
    Since this is my first try at orchestral writing your approval means a lot to me! What chord are you talking about, is it the one going out of the mellow section?

    My jazz buddy, beer enthousiast from Hollywood:

    Hi Craig, I hear you about the percs but this is supposed to be a demo for the orchestral side of Culture so I had to boost it up a little. I really appreciate your feedback anyway [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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    Now why can\'t I compose like that?

    Very Nice [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Francis & Rob,

    Thanks to the both of you.
    Everytime I am done with a piece I have this fear that it might actually be crap, so I feel rewarded by your comments.

    Rob, yes I have this big concern with reverb right now. I recently decided to start writing for the orchestra and I realize that panning and reverb are areas where I have to focus my attention. They seem to be key to a successful orchestral mix.
    For this piece, I applied reverb to my master after exporting everything to a stereo track ( using a PCM90 preset with SIR) instead of applying reverb to each section individualy.
    I am not sure this is the way to go but I thought that the best way to emulate the orchestra in a room was to follow that route.

    It sounds like Sharmy suggested applying some reverb to the percs separately before putting everything through a reverb.

    Care to comment? [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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    Thanks Sharmy!

    This is what I call informative, precise and to the point.

    Let\'s have virtual Sushi & Sake one of these days [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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    What chord are you talking about, is it the one going out of the mellow section?
    <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Yes, my man, the one with the wassabi spilling over the edge...

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    The Miles reference... I just got it! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

    But then, you should have trumpet solos, n\'est-ce-pas? Guess that\'s for when you (we) get SAM Trumpets... [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

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    That\'s right Ned!

    Waiting for these trumpets with great impatience.
    In the meantime there\'s always the castanets....

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    Re: Orchestral demo

    Hi Patrick,

    Very nice writing. I agree with Craig, the percussion needs to be tucked back. I also would use a tad more verb on some of the \'sample seams\'. Of course be careful -that\'s a potential short trip to \'mudsville\', but a judicious amount of good verb will \'melt\' those sample seams together. In the grand scheme of things, this is the easy stuff - you got the writing nailed. Thanks for sharing.


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