I\'ve got to post something about a comment that\'s been bothering me.
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">First of all, the things VSL and EWQLSO do are entirely different. The VSL team is constantly recording new material, thus the library size is expanding and the cost for each new edition goes up. That\'s just common knowledge and to think that\'s \"bogus\" is ridiculous and ignorant.Originally posted by feeserface:
I sure hope so, as someone who waited for these because I saw the vienna-tier system as bogus (not to mention these sounds sounding beautiful) I hope EW is as magnanimous in updates to its users as they have been in the past. New articulations, updates and support in addition to sound quality are begining to sway users from one library to the other and the market for samples seems to be slowly moving towards the \'software\' line, so barring a complete overhaul I pray they keep \'here and theres\' free.
just my 2cents
Nick and Doug have already stated it\'s entirely unlikely they\'ll be able to go back and record more articulations, due to the time constraints on the orchestra and Professor Johnson\'s ability to do another session. Unless I\'m mistaken, EWQLSO\'s updates will be just like Garritan\'s -- new articulations, programs, and fixes for any tuning or pitch problems. There may be some sample editing (just like looped harmonics or the looped Grand Sustain for GOS) invloved, but no new recordings. They may have some instruments and articulations not yet available in the current version that may have been held off because of time constraints, but you\'re basically getting more mileage out of the existing samples you have access to. They would probably give this to you free, or charge a small fee for say a disc printing or whatnot -- I\'m not Nick or Doug so I can\'t answer that.
VSL isn\'t doing the same thing. They are handing you a larger version of the library and you\'re paying for the *new* samples, not the old ones. They aren\'t just tweaked versions but entirely new recordings of articulations (sordino strings) and instruments (English horn and Wagner Tuba) and you should be expected to pay for them. That\'s not a bogus claim at all. I think it was Doug that stated he and Nick had version of the samples that were recorded at rates higher than 96K. If, when the technology permitted, they released say a version of the library with a higher sampling rate, should they not be entitled to a small fee from you for remaking the library over *again* with the higher rates? Sorry, but I don\'t see either of them letting something that large going for free, as that\'s aking to literally rebuilding the library from scratch or making a Giga version (though by the time GS3.0 gets here they\'ll have recorded a new orchestra).
Gary Garritan goes out and records a different harp and sells the samples. It\'s bogus for him sell it because he already has a Gigaharp library? I think not. Nuno Fonseca wrote a completely new version of the word building utility for VotA. I haven\'t been following the thread or discussion but I remember Nick stating that he was either going to raise the price of VotA slightly, leave it be and give a portion of the profits to Nuno for taking the time to write the program, or have the program as a separate purchase (this may be wrong, but I remember it being something along those lines). I don\'t think that\'s unreasonable at all either -- you don\'t *need* the program to use VotA just like you don\'t *need* the new samples in VSL. They recorded them, he wrote the new program, and you should have to pay for them.
If EW/QL went out and *did* manage to get ahold of Keith to record another session for the library, would you raise a stink about having to pay for the new samples? If you do that\'s kinda childish of you to do so, not to mention pathetic. I don\'t think there\'s a composer on this site that doesn\'t understand what they would have to go through to record another session and not agree to pay for the new material. I really can\'t see Nick or Doug doing another session with the orchestra and giving the new material away free -- they\'d have serious financial problems if they did, not to mention a lot of people would question their sanity.